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First the FBI admits Roswell, and now the NSA? Wow. Something must be happening here.
http://www.ufodigest.com/article/offici ... in-w-smith
This is the NSA.GOV PDF file link: http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/u ... ssages.pdf
NSA Document Admits ET Contact
By Kevin W. Smith
On October 21, 2004, the NSA approved for release to the public a portion of their NSA Journal Vol. XIV No. 1. This is a report of a presentation given to the NSA by Dr. Howard Campaigne regarding the decoding of extraterrestrial messages that had been received “form outer space”. Apparently, these messages had actually been received via the Sputnik satellite, but no one had any idea how to decode them at the time.
At some time, unspecified in the document, Dr. Howard Campaigne and some other NSA super mathematicians in the crypto department had been given the task of decoding the messages. There were a total of 29 messages to be decoded—quite an undertaking.
It is curious, to say the least, that this document was cleared for release on October 21, 2004. Why was that? Because the NSA did not release it into public information until April 21, 2011. Though cleared for release, the NSA had been stonewalling it along with hundreds of other NSA documents about contact with UFOs and extraterrestrials until they lost the lawsuit brought by Peter Gersten, a lawyer from Arizona. When they well and truly lost, the judge’s order had to be carried out, and the documents had to be released.
Dr. Howard Campaigne's “Extraterrestrial Signals”
The document, as I stated, is Dr. Campaigne’s presentation to the NSA on the decoding of those messages. It was actually published by the NSA in their own internal NSA Journal. Yet, they were also forced to publish a list of search terms from FOIA requests for which they had found no NSA documents. In that list is “Extraterrestrial Signals”. The title of this document, which they published themselves is “Key To Extraterrestrial Messages”.
Quite obviously, they conveniently split hairs here in reporting they had no information about “Extraterrestrial Signals”. They knew for sure they had this document, and that it was about what was being requested in the FOIA request. They knew it, flaunted the technicality of wording, and continued to stonewall.
Who is Dr. Howard Campaigne?
Dr. Campaigne is one of the top cryptologists on the planet with years and years of service to Naval Security Group, Army Security Agency, National Security Agency, and a couple of other such alphabet organizations.
Howard H. Campaigne started his crypto career for the government during World War II and has been a key and integral part of our U.S. security and intelligence ever since. In other words, he is part of a very small, very select group who are considered the cream of the crop in Cryptology.
Dr. Campaigne’s presentation to the NSA on decoding the extraterrestrial messages was not a hypothetical exercise. I contacted someone who is formerly associated with the NSA and still has TS clearance, and asked him to view the document. I asked him to give me his take on it. There was no question about its authenticity since it was published in the NSA Journal, and was released by the NSA on their web site. What I wanted to know was whether this document had any particular impact or importance (other than its startling revelations) for someone familiar with the inner workings of the NSA. It did.
My contact told me that he was blown away by the wording of the document. He said that NSA communications are filled with words like “possibly” , “allegedly”, and “thought to be”.
He said, “This document has none of the normal NSA disclaimer words in it. They just come out and say ‘we received messages from outer space’ and this is the way to decode those messages.”
I asked, “What does that mean to you?”
His reply was instant.
“Disclosure, pure and simple. They aren’t making any fanfare about it, but there it is. They have just made open disclosure.”
But what do the messages say?
Dr. Campaigne focused on a set of information in a couple of the messages that turn out to be some mathematical equations. They also contain the listing of all the elements in our Periodic Table. I suppose those equations may make some sense to a physicist or engineer, but do not mean anything to me. I clearly understand how Dr. Campaigne came to the translation since he explains it very well. But, as to what the meaning of the equations are, I could not venture a guess.
It is curious, though, that during his presentation Dr. Campaigne mentions there are “words” that they have translated, and some “words” they have not yet begun to understand. He gives an example of a connective word that he knows is connective (joining two or more statements) but does not yet understand the translation of that word.
Debunkers are scared as hell of the release of this information as it proves beyond any doubt that they are, and always have been, dead wrong. Their careers as debunkers are finished in light of the revelation of this material. They are already using the only possible “tool” left to them by saying, “That’s old information. It’s been out there for years.”
As usual, they are either just uninformed, or outright lying. It is true the document was cleared for release on October 21, 2004. It is true that date is from “years”. But it is also true that it WAS NOT released until April 21, 2011.
"No, Virginia, that information has not been available for years."
Researching this development for my show, I have found a great deal of other information that constitutes what most people would call open disclosure.
This is truly blockbuster information. No one from the government has stepped in front of the cameras and come clean about ET reality as yet. But, here we have the most secret intelligence organization in the U.S.A. , the National Security Agency, disclosing openly that there has been contact with intelligent extraterrestrials. Not only that, we have decoded their messages.
Want to read the document for yourself? Here it is.
When you open the page, look at the address in your browser.
You will see that it is the official NSA.GOV website.
It appears to be here...
Kevin W. Smith
April 24, 2011
“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
For some interesting (and some not so interesting) information on NSA Documents regarding UFOs, here is a link to their website on FOIA requests concerning UFOs:
Thanks from someone who is insterested.
Er, no, the FBI didn't admit Roswell. I posted about this misconception at (inordinate...) length a while ago on the AboveTopSecret.com forum in a thread entitled "Debunked! The FBI alien bodies memo – A case study in the reinvention of the wheel" at:
As for the NSA document that supposedly "admits ET contact", I keep meaning to write about that one but (as with most people with an interest in ufology) I only have a relatively limited amount of spare time to deal with these issues. In short, however, the relevant document was an amusing cryptology exercise.
All the best,
May 3, 2013
A caution statement is in order, just because a document or documents are released, DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE DOCUMENTS ARE AUTHENTIC. Government intelligence agencies have been known to alter, censor, or create false documents to create DISINFORMATION in the UFO community.
Documents should be checked and analyzed before the UFO community, declares them to be authentic.
I hope everyone is well. I just wanted to stick up my head long enough to post this. I think some of you might have seen this. Give the article a read below. I cut and pasted the relevant portion which speaks volumes. There is more to meet the eye than what we understand regarding cyber warfare and "information dominance." The question I believe we should ask is dominance of what or better what "situation?" Yes, this is what I have been looking for as a very subtle indicator to what some understand. I don't think we or anyone on this forum wants a meltdown.
Hiding in plain sight....
'When he was running the Army's Intelligence and Security Command, Alexander brought many of his future allies down to Fort Belvoir for a tour of his base of operations, a facility known as the Information Dominance Center. It had been designed by a Hollywood set designer to mimic the bridge of the starship Enterprise from Star Trek, complete with chrome panels, computer stations, a huge TV monitor on the forward wall, and doors that made a "whoosh" sound when they slid open and closed. Lawmakers and other important officials took turns sitting in a leather "captain's chair" in the center of the room and watched as Alexander, a lover of science-fiction movies, showed off his data tools on the big screen.'
'"Everybody wanted to sit in the chair at least once to pretend he was Jean-Luc Picard," says a retired officer in charge of VIP visits.'
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... page=0%2C0
From someone who used to be in the (IC) intelligence community I don't think the document is substantial. If it was legitimate the NSA would have grounds to stop it's release since any possible information on alien contact would likely be classified at a very high level. Furthermore the document has unclassified markings all over it. There appears to be no original higher classification of the document. This thing was probably part of an exercise. Military intel and other agencies do this kind of thing all the time. Modern convention require us to label the documents EXERCISE or something to that effect, but I can't speak for prior practices.
Critical Thinking and Logic offer the only sure path to truth.
Hello everyone. I hope you folks are well. As promised sometime ago I said I would stick my head in from time to time when I see something of great import regarding the phenomena. If the confirmation of Vice Admiral Michael S. Rogers comes to fruition, which I believe will be the case, then I believe this is a very solid step towards a confirmation of another sort. There are a few cues which I have been privy to which have led me to understand the dynamics of what might become the unthinkable - That being we are not alone!
For starters, I predicted way back during Keith B. Alexander's tenure, before he announced that he would retire, that the next NSA director would be Navy (Obama has declared that the NSA director & Cyber Warfare director shall be held by the same person). And no, I did not make that prediction on this forum, but with some trusted colleagues. Two, Rogers comes from Fleet Cyber Warfare, specifically the 10th Fleet. The 10th Fleet is in charge of command and control of communication. Mind you, not one ship will be built to accommodate the projected 44,000 which will be generally located around the Ft. Meade area. Three, when dealing with the phenomena it falls on the Navy to implement POLICY. And no, this is not a Department of Navy initiative. There is a difference and I have no wish to explain this.
In closing, I am looking forward to see how Rogers handles his new posting. Moreover, the next three years, perhaps culminating in year three will be a nice end to our childhood in the cosmos. We shall see...
Out of here.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/31/world ... .html?_r=0
I wouldn't hold my breath until 2017...
For those who might be interested. Today is the Senate confirmation hearing before the Armed Services committee of Vice Admiral Michael S. Rogers for the directorship of the NSA & Cyber Warfare. Rogers comes straight from the 10th Fleet:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/11/world ... 87141&_r=0
going back to the OP, not sure how 'Sputnik' managed to pull down information that contained an encoded version of the entire periodic table (as we understand it). I mean, how do you 'encode the periodic table'? It's a meaningless statement. You would have to somehow describe orbitals and so on for anyone to even guess it was anything about a periodic table, which would be a very long and complicated transmission indeed. And it's not as though we don't have comms satellites and SETI and so forth in space now which has never detected anything meaningful, why 'Sputnik' which was a primitive orbiting device which only gave out a self-generated radio signal for PR purposes? It had no recording or retransmission hardware. So I call BS on all this spooky stuff.
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