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UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby Scepcop » 01 Oct 2010, 18:01

Highlights



Full press conference




So skeptics, when will you apologize and admit you were wrong? At what point?
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Re: News! Air Force Press Conference today disclosing UFO's!

Postby Scepcop » 01 Oct 2010, 20:58

Press conference details:

Ex-military men say unknown intruders have monitored
and even tampered with American nuclear missiles
Group to call on U.S. Government to reveal the facts

Witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003. In some cases, several nuclear missiles simultaneously and inexplicably malfunctioned while a disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby. Six former U.S. Air Force officers and one former enlisted man will break their silence about these events at the National Press Club and urge the government to publicly confirm their reality. One of them, ICBM launch officer Captain Robert Salas, was on duty during one missile disruption incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base and was ordered to never discuss it. Another participant, retired Col. Charles Halt, observed a disc-shaped object directing beams of light down into the RAF Bentwaters airbase in England and heard on the radio that they landed in the nuclear weapons storage area. Both men will provide stunning details about these events, and reveal how the U.S. military responded.

Captain Salas notes, "The U.S. Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it." Col. Halt adds, "I believe that the security services of both the United States and the United Kingdom have attempted—both then and now—to subvert the significance of what occurred at RAF Bentwaters by the use of well-practiced methods of disinformation." The group of witnesses and a leading researcher, who has brought them together for the first time, will discuss the national security implications of these and other alarmingly similar incidents and will urge the government to reveal all information about them. This is a public-awareness issue.

Declassified U.S. government documents, to be distributed at the event, now substantiate the reality of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites extending back to 1948. The press conference will also address present-day concerns about the abuse of government secrecy as well as the ongoing threat of nuclear weapons.

WHO:

Dwynne Arneson, USAF Lt.Col. Ret., communications center officer-in-charge

Bruce Fenstermacher, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer

Charles Halt, USAF Col. Ret., former deputy base commander

Robert Hastings, researcher and author

Robert Jamison, former USAF nuclear missile targeting officer

Patrick McDonough, former USAF nuclear missile site geodetic surveyor

Jerome Nelson, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer

Robert Salas, former USAF nuclear missile launch officer

WHAT:

Noted researcher Robert Hastings, author of UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, will moderate a distinguished panel of former U.S. Air Force officers involved in UFO incidents at nuclear missile sites near Malmstrom, F.E. Warren, and Walker AFBs, as well as the nuclear weapons depot at RAF Bentwaters.

WHEN:

Monday, September 27, 2010, 12:30 p.m

WHERE:

National Press Club, Holeman Lounge

Event open to credentialed media and Congressional staff only
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference

Postby Scepcop » 15 Oct 2010, 04:33

Nightline - The UFO Disclosure Process has begun



Skeptics, I hope you guys aren't as much of an a** as this skeptic is.

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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference

Postby caniswalensis » 15 Oct 2010, 07:03

Yeah, I am not a big fan of James McGahee myself. While I basically agree with his outlook, I find his mode of speech to be a bit insulting to believers.

He seems to get a fair amount of airtime too, which irritates me. They should get someone decent like Joe Nickell to do these spots.
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby Scepcop » 17 Oct 2010, 03:24

A composition of various recent news clips that suggest that official worldwide UFO disclosure may be imminent.





Description:

With so many other countries DECLASSIFYING and releasing their UFO files, many believe the U.S. government will shortly follow suit and finally release to the public the reality of FLYING SAUCERS and EXTRATERRESTRIAL races visiting the Earth. Some say DISCLOSURE is imminent in the VERY NEAR FUTURE!

Following this DISCLOSURE is what many in the area of Exopolitics believe will create a PARADIGM SHIFT for many, including respected scientists, which will then lead to the release and development of FREE ENERGY technologies which many WHISTLEBLOWERS at many levels of government have stated are real and have been in the hands of our government for many years. Will Obama jump on board? The Freedom of Information Act may make it easier for him to do so. Lets hope that with the right people, we can get some of these advanced technologies out to the public in a responsible and timely manner which coincides with the COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY of mankind and the further AWAKENING that is occurring on this planet. If at the very least, this will lead to the end of our DEPENDENCE on oil and that alone will FOREVER CHANGE this planet and this world for the positive.

Lets see what the future holds, and hope that those claiming it to be a very positive future, are indeed correct.
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference

Postby Scepcop » 17 Oct 2010, 03:28

caniswalensis wrote:Yeah, I am not a big fan of James McGahee myself. While I basically agree with his outlook, I find his mode of speech to be a bit insulting to believers.

He seems to get a fair amount of airtime too, which irritates me. They should get someone decent like Joe Nickell to do these spots.


I agree that Joe Nickell is less annoying. What do you think of Michael Shermer though? In the film "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" Shermer was proven wrong when he said that no scientist or professor would get fired for talking about intelligent design. Yet he continued to deny it like a religion. Surely you don't consider Shermer to be open minded do you?
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby Twain Shakespeare » 18 Oct 2010, 05:47

Keep us posted. I can't think of anything else that could get Obama elected, unless disclosure is a ploy to let the Rapturist and neocons unite to form the galactic empire.
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby Scepcop » 06 Nov 2010, 01:36

Check out this film about UFO's by James Fox called "Out of the Blue". It's very convincing.

Part 1:



Here is the sequel to it called "I Know What I Saw".

Part 1:

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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference

Postby jakesteele » 20 Dec 2010, 15:18

caniswalensis wrote:Yeah, I am not a big fan of James McGahee myself. While I basically agree with his outlook, I find his mode of speech to be a bit insulting to believers.

He seems to get a fair amount of airtime too, which irritates me. They should get someone decent like Joe Nickell to do these spots.


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I already ripped Joe to shreds for his pseudo-skeptic botching of his 'rational explanation' for the Flying Friar. Unfortunately, I can't seem to be able to pull it up anymore, but it was on History Channel and entitled 'Secrets of Human Levitation'. The narrator recites an alleged report of this Friar lifting up off the stage area and going up and over the railing in a balcony area. Joe tries to say that "maybe" the Friar was in exceptionally good shape and perhaps he just jumped. If you watch this vid you will see that the distances and heights involved would be humanly impossible even with people like Michael Jordan.

How about just once we get real scientists like aerodynamic Ph.Ds. and the like, instead of magicians and other non-qualified people that have a predetermined agenda to disprove even before they've seen anything?
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby Scepcop » 16 Mar 2011, 23:51

90 minutes of media clips about UFO's, indicating that we are bein prepared for UFO disclosure at some point.

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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby really? » 17 Mar 2011, 03:31

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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby Arouet » 17 Mar 2011, 04:35

I would rather Scepcop have spent the 90 minutes responding to threads he's abandoned than on another one of these. If the government is going to reveal alien visitation, then we'll find out soon enough won't we?
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby jtcarl » 17 Mar 2011, 14:41

Dear Sir or Ma'am,

The comments pertaining to Robert Salas' claims involving his experiences during the alleged UFO events at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight in March 1967 fail to take into account the widely known facts of Salas' very poor credibility and his numerous, proven lies to the public regarding this matter. There were no UFOs involved at Echo Flight at all, and the incident at Oscar Flight never even happened. The men who have spread these lies, primarily Robert Salas and Robert Hastings, another UFO-oriented author, have done so for their own benefit, and they have proven to be both dishonest and wrong on numerous occasions in numerous ways. I would recommend that if you are truly interested in knowing what actually occurred at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967 you go to the following URLs, where you can download at no cost the book and supporting articles discussing the case:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26641522/Amer ... es-Carlson

http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303580/Echo ... es-Carlson

http://www.scribd.com/doc/49495918/The- ... es-Carlson

I would also recommend that you examine the numerous interviews and articles at the Reality Uncovered website: http://www.realityuncovered.net/ -- seven of the top nine articles all discuss the events at Echo Flight in March 1967, and include interviews with both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 when the missiles were taken offline by an electronic noise pulse.

A lot of information regarding this incident can also be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread: http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/v ... ea1b41a146.

Tim Hebert, an ex-USAF missileer himself, has also written some enlightening articles regarding the case on his blog at: http://timhebert.blogspot.com/.

Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British military forces' investigations of the UFO phenomenon for many years, has also discussed this case in the context of the "UFO and Nukes" connection asserted by author Robert Hastings. You can read his article on the subject at http://drdavidclarke.blogspot.com/2010/ ... nukes.html.

The lies currently being spread by Robert Hastings and Robert Salas have not merely been shown to be full of irresponsible interpretations of the actual events, they have been repeatedly proven to be lies contrary to both witness testimony and documented evidence. There is no doubt whatsoever that they created this case for their own benefit, and that none of the "incidents" they have described actually took place. There were no UFOs involved -- it is a lie, another silly UFO hoax, and nothing more.

Witnesses that both men have presented to the public have actually come forward to dispute the claims these men have made. They insist that their statements were taken out of context and distorted purposely in order to suggest the presence of UFOs where no such presence could otherwise be established. Salas and Hastings have perpetrated a UFO hoax of the worst sort, and have attempted to destroy the reputations and career service of better men than themselves, all to sell their books and enable them to charge outrageous prices for their public speaking tours, lectures, and videos.

As for other possible UFO cases, while I may personally doubt that alien spacecraft were involved, I really have no educated opinion to offer. Frankly, I don't know very much about other cases, and would never, for that reason, venture to put forth my own opinions as more viable than another's.

Thank you,
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby ProfWag » 17 Mar 2011, 18:15

Arouet wrote:I would rather Scepcop have spent the 90 minutes responding to threads he's abandoned than on another one of these. If the government is going to reveal alien visitation, then we'll find out soon enough won't we?

Yes, me too. I responded to a pm from him as well so he knows there are some comments to his irresponsible post.
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Re: UFO Disclosure Press Conference and News

Postby ProfWag » 17 Mar 2011, 18:17

jtcarl wrote:Dear Sir or Ma'am,

The comments pertaining to Robert Salas' claims involving his experiences during the alleged UFO events at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight in March 1967 fail to take into account the widely known facts of Salas' very poor credibility and his numerous, proven lies to the public regarding this matter. There were no UFOs involved at Echo Flight at all, and the incident at Oscar Flight never even happened. The men who have spread these lies, primarily Robert Salas and Robert Hastings, another UFO-oriented author, have done so for their own benefit, and they have proven to be both dishonest and wrong on numerous occasions in numerous ways. I would recommend that if you are truly interested in knowing what actually occurred at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967 you go to the following URLs, where you can download at no cost the book and supporting articles discussing the case:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26641522/Amer ... es-Carlson

http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303580/Echo ... es-Carlson

http://www.scribd.com/doc/49495918/The- ... es-Carlson

I would also recommend that you examine the numerous interviews and articles at the Reality Uncovered website: http://www.realityuncovered.net/ -- seven of the top nine articles all discuss the events at Echo Flight in March 1967, and include interviews with both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 when the missiles were taken offline by an electronic noise pulse.

A lot of information regarding this incident can also be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread: http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/v ... ea1b41a146.

Tim Hebert, an ex-USAF missileer himself, has also written some enlightening articles regarding the case on his blog at: http://timhebert.blogspot.com/.

Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British military forces' investigations of the UFO phenomenon for many years, has also discussed this case in the context of the "UFO and Nukes" connection asserted by author Robert Hastings. You can read his article on the subject at http://drdavidclarke.blogspot.com/2010/ ... nukes.html.

The lies currently being spread by Robert Hastings and Robert Salas have not merely been shown to be full of irresponsible interpretations of the actual events, they have been repeatedly proven to be lies contrary to both witness testimony and documented evidence. There is no doubt whatsoever that they created this case for their own benefit, and that none of the "incidents" they have described actually took place. There were no UFOs involved -- it is a lie, another silly UFO hoax, and nothing more.

Witnesses that both men have presented to the public have actually come forward to dispute the claims these men have made. They insist that their statements were taken out of context and distorted purposely in order to suggest the presence of UFOs where no such presence could otherwise be established. Salas and Hastings have perpetrated a UFO hoax of the worst sort, and have attempted to destroy the reputations and career service of better men than themselves, all to sell their books and enable them to charge outrageous prices for their public speaking tours, lectures, and videos.

As for other possible UFO cases, while I may personally doubt that alien spacecraft were involved, I really have no educated opinion to offer. Frankly, I don't know very much about other cases, and would never, for that reason, venture to put forth my own opinions as more viable than another's.

Thank you,
James Carlson
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Welcome James and thanks for taking the time to provide this information. Interesting stuff.
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