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Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Scepcop » 09 May 2010, 02:47

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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Nostradamus » 09 May 2010, 20:49

I don't even have to look at this video to know it is a sham.

The astronomical evidence is abundantly clear that no object can enter the solar system with the mass of a planet and go unnoticed.
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby really? » 15 May 2010, 12:02

Scepcop wrote:


Anyone with 1 half of 1 half of a brain should know that an object as big as a planet would be noticed not just by professional astronomers but also by the hundreds of amateur astronomers around the world. So tell me scepcop why this nonsense does not die ? And more to the point why didn't you realize that ?
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Nostradamus » 15 May 2010, 12:15

I think wwu77 got his from his pals over somewhere else. The case for a planet within the orbits of the known planets is failed on a number of issues from gravimetric studies to visual scans of the heavens. This dud of a story was shredded 3 years ago. Why is it still being posted?
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Maddogkull » 17 May 2010, 06:46

first off a dwarf star would not reflect light in our sprectrum so amateur astromenrs would not see it. Also it just seems weird that in all the end time prophecys bible,hopi, ect.. It all has to do with the sky turning red, and another planet in the sky. Seems like a description of a dwarf star.
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Nostradamus » 17 May 2010, 10:38

irst off a dwarf star would not reflect light in our sprectrum

That's false. Jupiter is a small dwarf star. That can be seen with the naked eye. Even the moon with a low albedo reflects light.

Jupiter currently rises just before the sun so it is not easy to see.

Basically all of these prophecies are either nothing, typical of prophecies, or they are being misrepresented. No object as large as Mars could be within 70AU. How do we know this? We can look at the known planets and see how they move. Are there movements that cannot be explained by the movements of the known planets? No. Well, no unless the objects are either small or really far away. For a Mars sized object we are talking 70AU. It is 39AU out to Pluto. Then there are the whole sky surveys. The Sloan survey is a well known one because that is the whole sky survey used by Google. There are others of course. They tell us that a Mars sized object could not be within 320AU.

Now a dwarf star is supposed to be 13 to 60 times the mass of Jupiter. Oddly, this does not mean it is that much more in size. A dwarf in this mass range is believed to be only 10 to 15% more in diameter. Anything of that size would have to be out over 2000AU.

So if there is a dwarf star out there someplace it is nowhere near our solar system.
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby ciscop » 17 May 2010, 10:44

nostradamus
sometimes i feel you are like einstein debating dumb kindergarden kids that doesnt care nor doesnt know how to research (in this times we call it googleit)

planet x is just plain dumbness
thats it

wu never reserchs anything he doesnt care
he just find people that he thinks "are sincere and honest and doesnt have a reason to lie"

wu is just not all there as we have seen
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Nostradamus » 17 May 2010, 10:54

Thanks ciscop.

The amazing thing to remember is that even though gravity runs the show at solar system and larger objects, a simple law leads to all sorts of wonderful things. So now people want to toss in a new planet and somehow magically have that planet do things which are impossible. What I thin is weird is that after you tell someone that there are scientific studies that make a new planet in our system, i.e. within the orbits of the known planets, impossible. They take a deep breath and then repeat the same lunacy. It's religion for some people. They act like creationist loonies that deny the real world.

There are lots of amazing things out there. Why waste time repeating a wacko claim easily disproved?
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby really? » 17 May 2010, 11:22

Nostradamus wrote:Thanks ciscop.

The amazing thing to remember is...

There are lots of amazing things out there. Why waste time repeating a wacko claim easily disproved?


I think that is a very good question to ask scepcop.
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby ciscop » 17 May 2010, 12:51

i doubt he will ever reply
i saw profwag challenging sometime ago and he never went back to the thread

he just care about posting dumb stuff
(which is incredible, since believers as we all know actually research stuff.... yeah right)

so
this was a nice thread
it was awesome to see wu getting his ass kick once again in his own forum
is his fault... he really shouldnt post dummy stuff
whats next?? shapeshifting reptilians that control the world??....
oh.. wait a second...thats right... he already posted that!
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Craig Browning » 17 May 2010, 21:06

Maddogkull wrote:first off a dwarf star would not reflect light in our sprectrum so amateur astromenrs would not see it. Also it just seems weird that in all the end time prophecys bible,hopi, ect.. It all has to do with the sky turning red, and another planet in the sky. Seems like a description of a dwarf star.


The skies turning red can likewise relate to the inversion layers of our own atmosphere, which I'd think to be more logical and probable... not to mention, it's happened many, many times... and I do believe the prophecy states that "The moon will be as blood" not our own atmosphere. A Blood Moon used to happen every autumn during the months of slaughter as the result of all the smoke houses in a given region curing meat for the winter... again, inversion factors.

Water turning to "blood" has likewise happened many times along with other "plagues" most of which have been explained away as natural happenstance that is very terrestrial by nature -- volcanic even.

I'm exceptionally well versed in both, Biblical and Native American prophecy (particularly the Hopi in that I was initiated in the Hopi traditions long ago, but I have Cherokee relatives that still hold to the old ways as well). My biblical foundation comes from two sources; a family of no fewer than 5 Evangelists to which I was to be aided to the stable... I just have more integrity in my heart so I became a Psychic & Entertainer :twisted: The thing is, I've spent much of my life looking at the whole "end times" scenario predictions and simply became both, bored and disgusted by a handful of facts;

    1.) at least once a decade we will hear that the end of time is at hand.
    2.) every-time there is an annomoly in space (comet, strange star, asteroids, etc.) the end of time is at hand
    3.) at the end of each Century/Millennium we are faced with the end times
    4.) every-time some tyrant dictator type comes into power they are the Anti-Christ and the end is near
    5.) every-time a charismatic preachers can convince his followers to drink the kool-aid, it is the end of time...

Since the supposed death of JC there have been well over a million "end of time" events and not only has he not shown up nor the "saints" taken up into the heaven's by Scotty's transporter beam, etc. We're all here and it is our thinking that makes existence a heaven or hell, end of story. ;)
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby ciscop » 20 May 2010, 09:37

i have some friends like you craig.. they usually ramble in philosophical ways for hours
im curious
do you smoke pot sometimes craig??
:mrgreen:
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Craig Browning » 20 May 2010, 09:44

ciscop wrote:i have some friends like you craig.. they usually ramble in philosophical ways for hours
im curious
do you smoke pot sometimes craig??
:mrgreen:


Can't... my asthma has become rather Chronic (no pun intended) :lol:

Actually, I was using Pot for quite some time to help deal with some of the pain I have to deal with. Too, it helped me get some sleep on those ruff nights.

My passion for theology and religious history however, started long before my first joint or drink. C'mon, I was raised in a family that has 5 living preachers at one point and a mother that wanted me to be the next Billy Graham :o I figured I didn't have that much larceny in my heart so I started doing Readings and got more deeply involved with show biz :lol:
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby ciscop » 20 May 2010, 10:38

no no i was just kidding
is just that sometimes your posts seem rather dense
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Re: Will Planet X be a disaster for us?

Postby Craig Browning » 20 May 2010, 22:18

ciscop wrote:no no i was just kidding
is just that sometimes your posts seem rather dense


Trust me... I look at some of the things I type and wonder WTF! :lol:

I hate putting it this way, but I have to blame it on how I'm feeling each day and how a post strikes me. I don't get it, but some posts spark thoughts in my head that have nothing to do with the subject and yet, I'll blab and blab... :? :oops:
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