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UFO buzzes Sydney - and here's 'proof'

Postby Nostradamus » 25 Mar 2010, 11:32

From http://www.couriermail.com.au/entertainment/weird/ufo-buzzes-sydney-and-heres-the-proof/story-e6frep26-1225844515877

IT EMERGED from a blazing light in the clouds, descending on a busy street before zipping off silently into the sunset.


To the sceptic, Ms Hartigan's photo might show a speck of dust on the lens or something small floating in the air close to the camera.

But close encounters like Ms Hartigan's came as no surprise to UFO Research NSW spokesman Doug Moffett:

"It could be some electrical anomaly that no one has ever seen, it could be an extra-terrestrial craft, it could be something else," he said.

"There does appear to be a blur around the image, which could just be the way it's shaped, or - and this is pure speculation - it could be due to its propulsion system.


You might want to look at the photo. It appears to be an out of focus shot, but of everything, not just the nondescript dark blob in the middle.
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Re: UFO buzzes Sydney - and here's 'proof'

Postby Nostradamus » 25 Mar 2010, 11:34

From http://www.couriermail.com.au/entertainment/weird/bill-chalker-the-aussie-x-files-agent-who-says-the-aliens-have-landed/story-e6frep26-1225845029749?from=public_rss

MEET the Aussie Agent Mulder - a man whose job it is to investigate Australia's X-Files and work out whether aliens exist.

Bill Chalker, who has spent 35 years investigating alien abductions, believes the sighting of a UFO above Sydney by mother Fiona Hartigan is almost certainly genuine. He's not the only one.

Scores of Australians contacted the Daily Telegraph yesterday with reports of multiple sightings in the Blue Mountains or strange lights hovering over rural NSW.


A secret backer funds the full-time investigations, some of which take months to complete.
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Re: UFO buzzes Sydney - and here's 'proof'

Postby capri2 » 20 Dec 2010, 17:52

Sorry to our skeptic friend, I have looked at this photo, I am new here read start. I have sent this photo a lab. Conclusion: The object has depth being consistent with an actual solid object, it has shadow, it is in perspective and it is sizeable whilst being out of focus this is not unusual for a mobile phone, this was taken out of the photo with the analytical equipment, it is not a ballon...it is too big, there are two other objects on the RH side of the photo which are balloons one is visual one is encapsulated behind trees but is visible under special conditions. The people I sent this photo to cover large sporting event in Australia, so they know what they are looking at, my nephew is one of their senior analytical photographic and video analysts.

The person who took the photo had good cause to be in the area. She had no ulterior motive to fake such an event. She was interviewed and asked; " What did you see?" This is a rather stupid question, SKEPTICS and the media ask that question-you want to know what she didn't see.

So what she didn't see was this: an airplane, a blimp, a balloon, a bird, a flock of seagulls, the moon (I checked that), the sun (that was behind her), a reflection (they have no depth), you don't know and I don't know. So what did she actually see an object that had depth that was consistent with being a solid object but not consistent with being any of the things mentioned above, it was in perspective, it was sizeable and it definitely not the balloons reported as being lost (they are identified elsewhere in the photo). Simple-it is a UFO. This doesn't mean it is extraterrestrial, it is simply something in the air that is unidentified. No one has ever said it was from another planet, the skeptics jump at that conclusion, the realists look at facts. For the skeptics the question really is is man on our planet so special in this universe-the simple answer is, I think not. The reality, as far as being special goes we are probably on the bottom of the ladder.
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Re: UFO buzzes Sydney - and here's 'proof'

Postby capri2 » 20 Dec 2010, 19:02

By the way just to our skeptic friend I am not the secret backer I did this off my own back the day after the photo was taken and had it back within a week, they were busy that week with a sporting event. If you want to see how good I am at what I do mate go to Casebook-their first photo and have a look it was taken circa.1890, it was a Stereo Photo some guy bought it on EBay for a $380 I found the original in the NY public library for free, it's not a fake just a misinterpretation it is a rocky outcrop on a mountain. Get the photo professionally analyzed yourself, see it takes time. I have had hundreds of them done. The first thing you look for in a fake is the cheque book under the nose, mate. After that you ask the serious questions, skeptics ask the same questions as the media-WHAT DID YOU SEE, like really no one wants to know that it is in the photo- what didn't you see is the real question.
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Re: UFO buzzes Sydney - and here's 'proof'

Postby Arouet » 20 Dec 2010, 20:32

capri2 wrote:The person who took the photo had good cause to be in the area. She had no ulterior motive to fake such an event. She was interviewed and asked; " What did you see?" This is a rather stupid question, SKEPTICS and the media ask that question-you want to know what she didn't see.


Ummmm, no, there are an infinite number of things she didn't see. Asking her what she didn't see is not terribly useful. Now, in interviewing someone about a ufo and trying to help identify what was seen, one might ask, if the person is unclear about what they saw: did it look like a plane, a blimp, etc. But this is all done to try and nail down what she saw.



Simple-it is a UFO. This doesn't mean it is extraterrestrial, it is simply something in the air that is unidentified. No one has ever said it was from another planet, the skeptics jump at that conclusion, the realists look at facts.


The skeptics don't jump to the conclusion that the viewer suspects aliens, most of the time, when these stories are put forward to the general public, its because someone thinks its an alien. And you are right, at the end, just because we cannot match her description to an identifiable object, doesn't mean we can jump to the conclusion "alien".

For the skeptics the question really is is man on our planet so special in this universe-the simple answer is, I think not.


Most skeptics would agree with this. I would.

The reality, as far as being special goes we are probably on the bottom of the ladder.


Well, can't say that though, right? We have no idea where we are on the evolutionary scale of the universe. Even if the universe is highly populated we don't know how long it takes on average for life to cobble itself together. It's possible that we're the most developed beings in the universe, its also possible that there are concious beings with millions, if not billions of more development years than us. At this stage, we don't know.

However, what we do know is that however developed these alien civilisations may be- they are REALLY far away. The issue with aliens visiting our planet on a regular basis is a technological one. We have know knowledge that it is possible to travel thousands or millions or billions of light years in a reasonable time. Our current knowledge of the universe is that it is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. If this is true, then that would make such space travel prohibitive. Now, its always possible that there are ways to travel faster than the speed of light without tearing ourselves apart. But we are not justified in just assuming it. If we were to learn that interstellar space travel on a massive scale was possible it would make alien visitation much more likely, imo.

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Re: UFO buzzes Sydney - and here's 'proof'

Postby ProfWag » 20 Dec 2010, 22:43

Arouet wrote:However, what we do know is that however developed these alien civilisations may be- they are REALLY far away. The issue with aliens visiting our planet on a regular basis is a technological one. We have know knowledge that it is possible to travel thousands or millions or billions of light years in a reasonable time. Our current knowledge of the universe is that it is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. If this is true, then that would make such space travel prohibitive. Now, its always possible that there are ways to travel faster than the speed of light without tearing ourselves apart. But we are not justified in just assuming it. If we were to learn that interstellar space travel on a massive scale was possible it would make alien visitation much more likely, imo.

On the subject of technology and aliens, I would like to include something that sometimes seems to get lost. Yes, from what we know at the present it would be difficult, if not virtually impossible, to travel to other planets. But if extraterrestrials are here, then there are a lot of them from different planets. People claim they see "cigar shapes," "saucers," big ones, small ones, rotating ones, round ones, "footballs," "triangles," and so on and so on. So, not only do we have the possibility of just one coming from another planet that stays here and then goes, we have dozens from different planets and some that have remained in our atmosphere for decades that go undetected aside from the occasional sighting. Yet, with the myriad of different types of alien crafts, we have yet to confirm the evidence of just one (that the public is aware of). THAT's one of the main reasons why I remain skeptical of alien spacecraft.
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Re: UFO buzzes Sydney - and here's 'proof'

Postby NinjaPuppy » 21 Dec 2010, 23:02

ProfWag wrote:On the subject of technology and aliens, I would like to include something that sometimes seems to get lost. Yes, from what we know at the present it would be difficult, if not virtually impossible, to travel to other planets. But if extraterrestrials are here, then there are a lot of them from different planets. People claim they see "cigar shapes," "saucers," big ones, small ones, rotating ones, round ones, "footballs," "triangles," and so on and so on. So, not only do we have the possibility of just one coming from another planet that stays here and then goes, we have dozens from different planets and some that have remained in our atmosphere for decades that go undetected aside from the occasional sighting. Yet, with the myriad of different types of alien crafts, we have yet to confirm the evidence of just one (that the public is aware of). THAT's one of the main reasons why I remain skeptical of alien spacecraft.

Perhaps they are different shapes because there are different UFO corporations? I'm sure aliens would think the same thing about our many different modes of land travel. For instance.... a camel vs. a Dodge. :lol:
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