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PEAR - 30 years of positive psi results

Postby Scepcop » 08 Aug 2009, 03:24

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/index.html

Engineering and Consciousness

The Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) program, which flourished for nearly three decades under the aegis of Princeton University's School of Engineering and Applied Science, has completed its experimental agenda of studying the interaction of human consciousness with sensitive physical devices, systems, and processes, and developing complementary theoretical models to enable better understanding of the role of consciousness in the establishment of physical reality. It has now incorporated its present and future operations into the broader venue of the International Consciousness Research Laboratories (ICRL), a 501(c)(3) organization chartered in the State of New Jersey. In this new locus and era, PEAR plans to expand its archiving, outreach, education, and entrepreneurial activities into broader technical and cultural context, maintaining its heritage of commitment to intellectual rigor and integrity, pragmatic and beneficial relevance of its techniques and insights, and sophistication of its spiritual implications. As described more fully on the ICRL website, PEAR also will continue to provide the scholarly pedestal from which all other ICRL activities will radiate.

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/press_re ... osing.html

The enormous databases produced by PEAR provide clear evidence that human thought and emotion can produce measureable influences on physical reality. The researchers have also developed several theoretical models that attempt to accommodate the empirical results, which cannot be explained by any currently recognized scientific model.
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Re: PEAR - 30 years of positive psi results

Postby ProfWag » 25 Aug 2009, 03:21

I was thinking about this over the weekend. Confirming the hypothesis of parapsychology would be one of the most significant scientific events of our time. So, this led me to wonder...if Radin had 30 years of positive psi results, then why hasn't he been the recipient of the Nobel Prize for science?
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Re: PEAR - 30 years of positive psi results

Postby ciscop » 29 Aug 2009, 10:11

ProfWag wrote:I was thinking about this over the weekend. Confirming the hypothesis of parapsychology would be one of the most significant scientific events of our time. So, this led me to wonder...if Radin had 30 years of positive psi results, then why hasn't he been the recipient of the Nobel Prize for science?


because he is not doing science
he is just picking up only the hits on some other parapsychology tests
and not counting the mistakes (he has done his own also)
and with that he has an army of believers that dont need facts, but a few miracles (that if you known stadistics are bound to happen)
to continue selling books and lectures.

also is the same dummy that put on his blog a link to a study on telepathy by yoga magazine... the guy studied was.... GERARD SINEHI.. A MAGICIAN AND MENTALIST!... havent parapsychologists learn nothing with project alpha???...

radin is a quack
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Re: PEAR - 30 years of positive psi results

Postby ProfWag » 29 Aug 2009, 19:43

ciscop wrote:
also is the same dummy that put on his blog a link to a study on telepathy by yoga magazine... the guy studied was.... GERARD SINEHI.. A MAGICIAN AND MENTALIST!... havent parapsychologists learn nothing with project alpha???...

radin is a quack

That some potentially very interesting info ciscop. Any chance you remember what month that was posted? I looked at his log and the only thing of interest from 2009 was, well, a reference to this website... :-)
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Re: PEAR - 30 years of positive psi results

Postby ciscop » 30 Aug 2009, 02:46

uh i dont want to start bashing on radin on a PEAR thread
so maybe we should start another thread
but here is the link .. im not sure in what month it was.. it was posted on magiccafe as a counter study against the harvard study that debunked esp.. and we all had a laught when we found out it was sinehi the guy studied.
i also couldnt find it in dean radin´s blog again.

but you can see it is still posted on deanradin website
http://www.deanradin.com/papers/IntJYog ... 203406.pdf

have a laugh with this ¨study¨ by the internationally scientific respectable magazine...¨yoga magazine¨

ooh..
and that gerard sinehi
he is a GOD of mentalism,
that guy is good!.. but is tricks what he does, i like that when people get really scare he says ¨is only a trick¨ so he is honest in his dishonesty and thats all we can ask from a magician.
here is the link
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/culture/features/n_8629/

and this is gerard sinehi himself!...
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Re: PEAR - 30 years of positive psi results

Postby quantumparanormal » 30 Aug 2009, 06:01

ciscop wrote:because he is not doing science

he is just picking up only the hits on some other parapsychology tests and not counting the mistakes (he has done his own also)


To whom are you referring, Dean Radin? If so, this is just more evidence of pseudo-skeptics typically knowing not about what they're talking (i.e., ignorance). It's either that, or you're simply lying. In Radin's book, 'Entangled Minds', he addresses your "hits" issue, which is called the file-drawer problem (where experimenters will "file away" the disappointing/negative results and only publish the positive ones; he uses statistical funnel plots to accomplish this), and he also accounts for possible experimenter biases, design flaws, fraud, methodological/protocol errors, lack of controls, and so on (and when accounting for these issues, the results are still statistically positive in favor of psi). It's all laid out in the book for all to see and analyze, in great detail, but as is typically the case with most pseudo-skeptics, I doubt you've bothered to even read and analyze his data, his book, correct? If I'm mistaken, please accept my apologies, but I'd really be surprised if you've read this book, even partially. Additionally, Radin (and even Roger Nelson from the GCP) welcome anyone to challenge the methodologies/protocols and data they've implemented and obtained, so if you feel their analysis and gathering of data is incorrect or flawed in some way, please send your concerns to them, and they will consider the challenge. They welcome this (contact Radin at dean[@]noetic[.]org). Or, post your detailed concerns here, and we can analyze the data and methods/protocols involved together. Only then can we truly have an objective (well, hopefully), scientific debate; otherwise, it's simply a subjective, biased opinion.

ciscop wrote:because he is not doing science


What evidence do you have that "he is not doing science?" Please post the details here. Thanks.

ciscop wrote:he is just picking up only the hits on some other parapsychology tests and not counting the mistakes (he has done his own also)


What evidence do you have that "he is just picking up only the hits on some other parapsychology tests and not counting the mistakes (he has done his own also)?" Please post the details here. Thanks.
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