09 Jun 2011, 01:32
09 Jun 2011, 20:33
09 Jun 2011, 20:46
Craig Browning wrote:Yea, it was on the National News I believe. . . I find it funny, the fact that they never publish the cases in which Psychic gave solid leads and in a number of instances, lead authorities straight to the body and even the living person.
Why?
Because of stigma. Just like Pilots & Aircraft Controllers that censor themselves on UFO sightings so Law Enforcement and the Military obfuscate their use of paranormal resources, even to the point of burying cases.
Yes, this is a very old, very dead horse.
NO, I am not going to play fetch or argue the point in that those that don't want to give any kind of credit to such things, never will agree that it's not only been done but is done with great consistency. The catch is however, the psychics involved typically try to avoid any kind of media attention -- they are not in it for "personal gain or glory" but because they wish to help as they can and where they can. I've repeated this fact upon several occasions here; the "real" psychics (for lack of a better term) electing to stay out of the limelight and even outside the more "metropolitan" environs, residing in simple modest homes that are frequently decorated in an eclectic array of chachkeys.
09 Jun 2011, 23:42
ProfWag wrote:Totally disagree Craig. It's never happened. Ever. And if it did, we would have heard about it even if the psychic wished to remain anonymous. Even in the current high profile case of Casey Anthony, there was a psychic (Ginette Lucas, I believe) who supposedly told a PI where to look, but that's even come into serious question as additional information has come out. We've gone through this before and no one has produced any concrete evidence this has ever happened. And the FBI backs my opinion up as well.
10 Jun 2011, 02:10
NinjaPuppy wrote:ProfWag wrote:Totally disagree Craig. It's never happened. Ever. And if it did, we would have heard about it even if the psychic wished to remain anonymous. Even in the current high profile case of Casey Anthony, there was a psychic (Ginette Lucas, I believe) who supposedly told a PI where to look, but that's even come into serious question as additional information has come out. We've gone through this before and no one has produced any concrete evidence this has ever happened. And the FBI backs my opinion up as well.
As I have said before, I have first hand knowledge of a case where a psychic DID in fact give exact information that led the police to a body. What I do not have is any written proof or evidence. Just because it was never documented on paper, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
10 Jun 2011, 02:36
Craig Browning wrote:Yea, it was on the National News I believe. . . I find it funny, the fact that they never publish the cases in which Psychic gave solid leads and in a number of instances, lead authorities straight to the body and even the living person.
Why?
Yes, this is a very old, very dead horse.
I find it funny, the fact that they never publish the cases in which Psychic gave solid leads and in a number of instances
10 Jun 2011, 03:11
ProfWag wrote:I'll take you word for it Ninja, but how do you know this psychic didn't have inside knowledge that was actually nothing paranormal? And when you say "led the police to a body," do you mean the psychic told the police to look "around water" or did the psychic say she's in the basement of a house at 123 Main Street? There is much information to be found about psychics saying a body would be found here or there, but not a documented case where the crime would not have been solved at that time without the use of a psychic.
10 Jun 2011, 19:25
NinjaPuppy wrote:ProfWag wrote:I'll take you word for it Ninja, but how do you know this psychic didn't have inside knowledge that was actually nothing paranormal? And when you say "led the police to a body," do you mean the psychic told the police to look "around water" or did the psychic say she's in the basement of a house at 123 Main Street? There is much information to be found about psychics saying a body would be found here or there, but not a documented case where the crime would not have been solved at that time without the use of a psychic.
The psychic got in a patrol car with two detectives and gave them directions to a physical location, where they parked. They then followed the psychic around on foot around a massive industrial property as he was looking for the exact location that he had "seen" in his vision. He found the location and the detectives searched the area to find a girls body (in water) stuck under a dock.
Prior to the above event, the psychic was asked by the detectives to somehow prove that he could back up his claims of psychic ability. The test took place in the general location (town) of another murder that this psychic said had a connection. To prove his claims, he gave the detectives the name of a local eatery/bar in that town and gave them a full description of what it looked like and everyone who would be in the bar (physical descriptions and some first names). So maybe that test isn't exactly proof positive from my example but it was absolutely exact. Enough to convince two police detectives to entertain this persons claims.
And yes, the psychic became their #1 suspect at least in the area of a connection to perhaps the actual players but was completely cleared down the line. Even after the actual murderer was arrested and convicted, they found no connection to anyone connected with this case. Also, the body had drifted from where it had been dumped, so even the murderer had no clue where it wound up nor was it visible at the time it was found.
10 Jun 2011, 20:26
11 Jun 2011, 00:35
11 Jun 2011, 20:23
Craig Browning wrote:I've simply seen too many situations and even participated in one major and a couple of minor situations in which crime or "loss" was an issue, through which psychic or intuitive phenomena was the key. In my personal experiences the biggie was locating a stolen car and ultimately leading authorities in Nevada, Arizona and California to a car theft operation based near Palm Dale, CA. Yet, you won't find me or any other psychic mentioned in the reports for several reasons, the primary reason is that it all started with one man that came to see me at the store in Reno and it was his insistence and personal follow-up to my leads that lead to the bust. Nonetheless, he credits me for telling him where to look and what to look out for.
11 Jun 2011, 23:12
13 Jun 2011, 19:45
Craig Browning wrote:I really don't know how to better explain these points other than stating that history is rife with examples in which those of a set spiritual conviction, willingly distance themselves in a manner of being "IN the World but not OF the World".
13 Jun 2011, 21:26
14 Jun 2011, 00:16