Discussions about Psychics and Psychic Phenomena, Extra Sensory Perception, Telepathy, Psi, Clairvoyancy, 6th Sense, Psychokinesis, etc.
Prove to me ESP doesn't exist. Since wikipedia isn't a good reference source for, well, much of anything, then according to
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictiona ... n+of+proof ...awe hell, nevermind.
This is better than barking dogs and more on topic-
http://animal.discovery.com/videos/extr ... eaper.html
Animals, particularly dogs, are being used a good deal in the medical field these days when it comes to detecting disease or "imbalances" within the body, to warn people of an on-coming seizure or even heart attacks, etc. I do find it interesting how all these SCIENTISTS are doing such things while the JREF insists that animals can't make such predictions or warnings... especially when it comes to things like the weather, earth quakes, etc. Which offer far more pronounced chemical and energy shifts than a tumor inside someone's body would do... or the emissions noted in this video that bode of death.
- Argument from ignorance at its finest.....
The lack of evidence for or against a proposition is not evidence for or against a proposition. Untill there is evidence for or against a proposition, then we can conclude the propostion is true/false (Depending on the evidence) otherwise, it's just pure prejudices....
Furthermore, the burden of proof always lies on person making a claim. If you claim X exist, the burden lies on you and if you claim X doesn't exist, the burden also lies on you.
It's simple logic.
I did a blog post on this subject for this very reason. Most people aren't aware of the science.
Don't worry. It's not spam. I can't paste it into the forum because the charts get all screwed up and it has a bunch of links citing sources. (As a n00b I'm only allowed 2 links.)
This evidence is basically skeptic proof.
A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not what ships are for.
Since I am not trying to get you to do anything on the grounds of an extrasensory perception, there is no reason for me to provide a burden of Proof, unlike Ronald Reagan, whose astrologer helped direct national policy.
Which is good, because I doubt I have any more expereimental proof than you do. I just interpret it differently. One thing I "know" tho, is our minds confirm our conceptions of what is more than they notice contrary facts.
By your own standards, amigo, if I presented you with evidence, you would have the burden of proving the evidence invalid placed on you. However, if you succeded in proving one faith healer is a fraud, it would not be a universal falsification of "faith healing".
I believe "esp exists" on the basis of personal experiences and "anecdote" that can only be falsified on the basis of further personal experiences. These experiences are not remotely replicable, nor is life, in general. I do not present my belief to you as proof, only anecdotal evidence that one more fool has deluded himself, as St David Hume would put it.
You have asserted ESP does not exist. Prove that universally, please.
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Hi Craig, and welcome. I cannot speak for other people, but personally I am aware jof much of the science. I also know that the National Academy of Science (THE leading organization in the U.S. for science) concluded over 20 years ago that no further research was needed in parapsychology. Although I don't necessarily follow that idea as I think research should always be conducted, it does tell me that they don't believe the evidence warrants anything conclusive. I also know, and those that believe in the paranormal seem to forget, that if there is conclusive evidence of anything paranormal, it would not longer be considered "para"normal, it would just be normal. So, regardless of the criticizm we skeptics receive, the bottom line is that parapsychology, et. al, is just that, "para."
Since it's a holiday weekend here in the US, I'll save everyone the time and cut and paste 'the usual':
"You can't prove a negative."
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