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Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 19 Mar 2010, 23:05
by ciscop
so here is a thread for those of us here that want to see if Daz can actually do what he says he do
here is how it will go
1. a third party (i recommend NP since she is a sheep and not a goat) will put something in a box
2. NP will put have a number or whatever protocol RV need so Daz can do his stuff and see whats inside the box
3. Daz will tell us all what object did NP put in a Box
4. NP will say what was in the box
5. we will all thanks daz for proving his skills and we will recomend our friends to subscribe to daz magazine

Now
this is a fun little experiment
Daz is welcome to change the protocol
that was just what i proposed
but common lets do this !!
go daz go!!

SHOW YOUR SUPPORT THOSE OF US that want daz to do his thing

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 03:54
by Nostradamus
I think this is wonderful. I would like at add that the protocol are listed in this thread. It would also be fun to read progress on the steps as things happen.

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 04:04
by ProfWag
Could be fun, but we'll see. I suggest putting something boring in the box, like a fruit... :-)

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 08:24
by ciscop
yeap
and lets see how would we rate it
how specific can RV be? lets suppose is indeed a fruit, will that qualify as a hit? there´s a bunch of fruits!.. what about a tomato?
can we accept Small Object as a hit?
can we accept ¨something useful¨ as a hit? something eatable? could we accept object surrounding the box as a hit?
i dont care, i just want to see it happening
either way
i think ill be a lot of fun

GO daz GO !

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 08:55
by NinjaPuppy
We have plenty of 'fruits' on this Forum and a couple of nuts too. :lol:

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 09:17
by Nostradamus
Are you sure you want one us nuts or fruits to sit in a box in your house?

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 10:24
by ciscop
Dont Call me a FRUIT!!

i was drunk and i was innocent!
besides that only happened once!!

:lol:

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 19:21
by NinjaPuppy
LOL @ all y'all!

Now if you skeptics can't decide on what/who to put in the box, how is Daz going to do this thing properly? Besides, Daz is not here for entertainment value so y'all better put some serious thought into this protocol.

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 19:28
by ProfWag
Truthfully, I think it should be Daz who decides, if he wants to do it, what the protocol is. If he says he can do something, then it's up to him to tell us what he can do. I don't even think the object needs to be in a box. Why not sitting out in plain sight on a table? Anyway, just my thoughts.

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 21:21
by dazsmith
lol.
knowing the target is an object inside a box is not being blind to the target.
Also talk of fruit and silly banter doesn't make for a level playing field and proper demo - so no I wont partake, its just too hostile and negative an environment and there is one solid thing we know about Rv and that is that the person observing the experiment is also part of the experiment, having laughing negative people involved is not a level playing field to start a proper test - and I wont be involved in silly tests.

I did the Paracast sceptical test when they cut out the some of the 'fruit loops' and took the test seriously and we all had a level playing field to work from. At the same time I don't feel I need to educate you on simple things like blindness and what makes good remote viewing targets for tests and alike. Your idea of pouting something like an apple in a box is akin to the boring and non productive repetitive test trying to guess shapes on cards that was inflicted on intuitives like medieval torture devices in the 1970s.

If you want to see continued use of mine and other remote viewing skills in public then just follow the next year long public demonstration here:
http://www.farsight.org/demo/Mysteries/ ... oject.html
the previous 12 months - just ended: http://www.farsight.org/demo/Multiple_U ... iment.html

At least this is properly setup, level playing field and you get to see other remote viewers as well as me - giving you a more rounded set of stats to criticise.

I know you will not like this - but im very busy right now with prior rv commitments and don't have the time or need to do a separate public demo's for every sceptic I run across (especially the very negative not serious ones) - want to see me work in public - follow the already constructed public demos - I'm not hiding. if you really want to see rv work - then follow it.

All the best...

Daz

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 20 Mar 2010, 21:54
by Craig Browning
I know you will not like this - but im very busy right now with prior rv commitments and don't have the time or need to do a separate public demo's for every sceptic I run across (especially the very negative not serious ones) - want to see me work in public - follow the already constructed public demos - I'm not hiding. if you really want to see rv work - then follow it.


:lol: ain't that the case?! :lol:

For some reason the cynical thinkers of the world don't care how many hoops one jumps through that have sustained your claims, they want you to jump through THEIR hoop, that's the only one that matters. Which, if you step back and look at the greater picture, is quite immature as well as arrogant.

I know, because of my skepticism, that challenging a circumstance being it a psychic, remote viewer, dowser, whatever is what we are inclined to do. I also know that 90% of that inclination stems not from the pseudo-scientific excuse we paint onto it but rather our inner desire to see it happen so we can given ourselves permission to believe; in fact, this is what the majority of "skeptics" seek -- confirmation (I refer you to the new testament and Thomas' hesitation in accepting the Resurrection until he touched the wounds of Christ... same animal!)

There is a minority of us in the realm of skepticism who want to see demonstrations of this sort in order to poke holes into it all; James Randi is an excellent demonstration of this sort but there are those that make him look tame. These are the cynics who WILL NOT believe in anything no matter how concrete the evidence. I'm confident Daz has encountered more than his fair share of such ingrates... I know I have; especially after the whole 9/11 thing and the crew of the Genii Magazine forum caught wind of it.... then again, magicians are ass holes by their very nature :twisted:

Sorry, but I have to side with Daz here, guys. It isn't just unfair, it's insulting to have such expectations and place such demands on someone who has been exceptionally compliant when it comes to sharing articles and links about his and the work of other contracted RV types.

Some time ago I got a call from some jerk.. it was ten at night. He'd found one of my flyers advertising private Readings and expected me to give him a freebie so he could see if I was "legit" or not... I encouraged him to go procreate with himself and hung-up but it is the sort of thing "we" (psychics) endure on a continual basis which can be quite frustrating. I have to encourage you guys to take a few steps back and consider what Daz has said here as well as the few things I've pointed out; ask yourself how you would react to similar treatment. ;)

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 21 Mar 2010, 01:41
by ciscop
dazsmith wrote:lol.
knowing the target is an object inside a box is not being blind to the target.
Also talk of fruit and silly banter doesn't make for a level playing field and proper demo - so no I wont partake, its just too hostile and negative an environment and there is one solid thing we know about Rv and that is that the person observing the experiment is also part of the experiment, having laughing negative people involved is not a level playing field to start a proper test - and I wont be involved in silly tests.

I did the Paracast sceptical test when they cut out the some of the 'fruit loops' and took the test seriously and we all had a level playing field to work from. At the same time I don't feel I need to educate you on simple things like blindness and what makes good remote viewing targets for tests and alike. Your idea of pouting something like an apple in a box is akin to the boring and non productive repetitive test trying to guess shapes on cards that was inflicted on intuitives like medieval torture devices in the 1970s.

If you want to see continued use of mine and other remote viewing skills in public then just follow the next year long public demonstration here:
http://www.farsight.org/demo/Mysteries/ ... oject.html
the previous 12 months - just ended: http://www.farsight.org/demo/Multiple_U ... iment.html

At least this is properly setup, level playing field and you get to see other remote viewers as well as me - giving you a more rounded set of stats to criticise.

I know you will not like this - but im very busy right now with prior rv commitments and don't have the time or need to do a separate public demo's for every sceptic I run across (especially the very negative not serious ones) - want to see me work in public - follow the already constructed public demos - I'm not hiding. if you really want to see rv work - then follow it.

All the best...

Daz


I am supporting you Daz!!
dude, i would love to see something paranormal happening!
so, instead of doing a really simple test (hey you have a 70% accuracy) you call it childish?
i think you really dont care about proving what you do
stop posting links, those are meaningless
prove it right here, right now, you are the one that should provide the protocol NOT ME, i just proposed a fun protocol
i could care less, i just want to see an experiment going on and all the procedure

when you arrived here, like a year ago, scescop asked you for the same trial
and you jumped away and said you were busy...
hey.. you do 3 tests a week, give us one of those to debunkingskeptics.com and we will provide more publicity
that you will ever get by posting meaningless links to your website.
go ahead daz

i support you
we all wanna see it happening
go ahead, what´s there to lose? no pressure! if you can do it, you can do it, if you cant.. well you can try again :-)

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 21 Mar 2010, 02:43
by Nostradamus
As Daz has pointed out in another thread, what he is doing makes confirmation of the process difficult. When I asked him about removing the subjective decision that it was a match he told me that he doesn't do that - purposely. He made it clear that the way he was doing it, or as it is designed, was not good for scientific verification of the process.

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 21 Mar 2010, 04:29
by NinjaPuppy
I have said this before somewhere on this forum that people really don't feel like proving anything. I am in no way answering for Daz, just stating my own personal feelings. It's not like you can turn it on and off. It takes concentration and preparation.

Re: Daz - Remote Viewing Test

PostPosted: 21 Mar 2010, 05:33
by ciscop
well
he can take all the preparation and concentration he needs
right now, he is nothing but a guy saying he can do something magical

he doesnt need to prove anything
but is going to be on the mind of everybody
that he was offered a shot at doing something cool
and he chicken out like all the paranormalists usually do
they always claim they can do something extraordinary until they face a challenge..
is the same pattern we have seen many times
you see it in dave koenig, you see it in hf2 you see it here with daz

is kind of obvious that he isnt doing it because he knows he screws up more than he hits
just like we would expect in anything like that

he said that he thinks osama is in a cave... isnt that intuitive? i dont know how could he know that, because i am pretty sure that isnt reported in EVERY major news outlet.
well... following the scientifc procedure of rv
i just RV mel gibson and i can see him in malibu with his new wife browsing ebay to buy a bunch of nazi parafernalia
:lol: