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The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Discussions about the James Randi Educational Foundation and its Million Dollar Challenge.

Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby NinjaPuppy » 25 Oct 2009, 03:00

Very interesting! Thanks for the information Brett.
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby Azrael » 26 Oct 2009, 02:42

Well Im a membe rof JREf forum and haven't seen a furore. Ive seen members asking the author(or the author using another member;s account for which they were banned)detailed questions and also asking for proof .

But that doesn't fit with believers biased views sadly,
I'm always very skeptical of any situation where someone's notability hinges on their connection to another notable person
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby AngelsAlive » 28 Oct 2009, 13:18

The attack dogs at JREF have been going crazy over the $50K challenge out of Arizona.

http://www.examiner.com/x-8611-Phoenix- ... -in-a-knot

On it goes. JREF keeps posting nasty comments, which keep getting deleted. One, left up with the last article, even threatens the writer and says they reported the article, about Randi's sick and twisted desire to have his ashes blown in Uri Gellers face. They can't stand exposure of their own braggadcacio.
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby NinjaPuppy » 28 Oct 2009, 21:14

AngelsAlive - Thanks for posting that link. It is a very interesting article.
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby brett » 28 Oct 2009, 22:57

yea especially the bit on how much to be a "member" and the "perks " :lol: :lol: - well nice work if you can get it :roll: - and i suppose it beats living on a state pension ( er do you have state pensions in the states ?? - excuse pun )

another exploiter of the paranormal feild :roll: :roll:
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby NinjaPuppy » 28 Oct 2009, 23:44

We have private company pensions for those who are lucky enough to land a job with this sort of thing, and of course Social Security. I do hope I explained that correctly.
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby ciscop » 29 Oct 2009, 00:27

AngelsAlive wrote:The attack dogs at JREF have been going crazy over the $50K challenge out of Arizona.

http://www.examiner.com/x-8611-Phoenix- ... -in-a-knot

On it goes. JREF keeps posting nasty comments, which keep getting deleted. One, left up with the last article, even threatens the writer and says they reported the article, about Randi's sick and twisted desire to have his ashes blown in Uri Gellers face. They can't stand exposure of their own braggadcacio.


hahahaha
i read the article
its from a spiritual advisor
no wonder she is so damn mad against randi
she is a BS artist
hahaha

i think i read about eddy
he also demanded to take his emails down jref
you can see them if you scroll down pass articles
here is the link of the woo believer you support
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swi ... hange.html
For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby SalineSolution » 13 Nov 2009, 15:50

ciscop,

kinda weird post you have. I've read this forum and the Randi forum, and I don't see anything about Eddie demanding the emails be taken down. Why would you say that? It doesn't exist.

And the nasty comment about the author of the article — calling her a bullshit artist and referring to her as an "advisor"? I don't see anything about her anywhere where she calls herself an advisor. I think you've seen too many carnival acts and store front pychics. She's obviously not that. You also obviously know nothing about clairvoyance - reputable clairvoyance. No, that's not an oxymoron. Visionaries have always been with us.

BTW, there's a new article on that original Examiner page with the actual criteria for the Eddie Benitez Challenge. It's nothing like James Randi's sterile, lab experiment.

Science is great. But it works on theories more than anything else. We knew more about nutrition, for example, before science ever got ahold of the "science" of nutrition. Every other week something science has told us about what we eat and its effects is proved to be false, wrong, stupid. It "evolves" but never gets it right. Yet it damns naturalists.

Your momma knew more about nutrition than the scientists. And your grandma. And your great grandma.

The scientists that ate margarine choked on the chemicals while they were debunking homeopathy.

Back to psychics . . . science has failed. Let Benitez try to prove who's who.
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby Nostradamus » 16 Nov 2009, 13:21

Science is great. But it works on theories more than anything else. We knew more about nutrition, for example, before science ever got ahold of the "science" of nutrition. Every other week something science has told us about what we eat and its effects is proved to be false, wrong, stupid. It "evolves" but never gets it right. Yet it damns naturalists.

Your momma knew more about nutrition than the scientists. And your grandma. And your great grandma.

The scientists that ate margarine choked on the chemicals while they were debunking homeopathy.

Back to psychics . . . science has failed. Let Benitez try to prove who's who.


You make many claims here which are not true.

You do not seem to understand what scientists mean by theory. Nor do you appear to understand what science is all about.

Your claim of people innately knowing about nutrition is wrong. That is why experiments are done.

You mention homeopathy. Do you claim it works?

You say science has failed. Do you want to explain why?
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby Mistislav D'ralle » 17 Nov 2009, 11:27

ciscop wrote:
hahahaha
i read the article
its from a spiritual advisor
no wonder she is so damn mad against randi
she is a BS artist
hahaha


What gave it away? Was it her article "Gabriel, the angel, has a message for today. I have mentioned in some earlier articles communication with the Angel Gabriel that has come about in..."? or was it the three other anti-Randi articles on the same website by the same author?

I like her general insult that by joining JREF you get a "trinket". I don't think people join JREF for the trinkets but for the conversation. Considering Highflyertoo and the Professor have both been to JREF to try win "the money" it would seem that spiritual people enjoy JREF as much as anyone else.
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby The Professor » 03 Apr 2010, 11:47

So after all these years of attacking minorities he finally admits he's one himself!!!!
NOW THAT'S TRUE HYPOCRISY !!!!!!
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSED TO TEST FOR A MILLION DOLLARS
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Apr 2010, 11:51

So head on over to the MDC and do the test. Not chicken are you?
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby The Professor » 03 Apr 2010, 12:06

Nostradamus wrote:So head on over to the MDC and do the test. Not chicken are you?


Thanks .. You've proven my point !!!!!!

The JRE MDC will not allow those who can beat it compete...ROTFLMAO

I'm living proof :)

And you WAFFLE with the best of them !!!!!

randi has hidden what he really believes all these years to escape the same BS that he has inflicted upon other minorities ...THAT'S HYPOCRISY !!!!
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Apr 2010, 13:04

The reason the professor won't try out for the MDC is that he knows he is a failure. All of this blustery talk is as everyone else can see simply rubbish. You've proven my point that you can't take the heat of an actual test so you've been dishonest here in this forum.

You've refused to answer any questions. What are you hiding? Oh sorry. You're hiding the truth. That was a simple question to answer. The truth stings doesn't it professor?
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Re: The Relentless Hypocrisy of James Randi

Postby Craig Browning » 04 Apr 2010, 01:49

NinjaPuppy wrote:We have private company pensions for those who are lucky enough to land a job with this sort of thing, and of course Social Security. I do hope I explained that correctly.


Trust me SSI isn't enough to feed a bird... I get less than $800 a month for disability (I've always been self-employed and thus, never paid enough into "the system" for some of the other benefits... which would give me another $400.00 a month... there about)

Pensions from big companies are a joke in that they now "reorganize" in order to break said contracts or at least "curb" the hemorrhaging of cash to "dead people" as some call it (they are "dead weight" no longer productive to the company). I know this because it happened to my father, a former Supervisor (low management) with International Harvester before it became Navestar International. I've also seen it affect others from industries other than transportation. It's criminal and yet they get away with it.

In today's world if you live in or near a major city area, you need no less than $2,200.00 a month just to survive and yet, most "retired" citizens see less than half that 30% of which goes to housing (public housing/Section 8) and in some cases they still have Utilities to deal with before you get to luxury items like food & clothing. Though most everyone I know does things on the side to bring in a bit of extra cash, if it were reported as income they would instantly have an additional 30% of that amount taken by the housing system and then 50% of the gross about must be paid back to SSI... that leaves you with about 20-25% of that extra cash a.k.a. NOTHING for your efforts.... it comes out as being less than minimum wage at the end of the day. But we're not through here boys & girls... you also get gauged at the counter when it comes to any medications you might need and too, if you require certain types of treatments or therapy it may not be permitted if you don't have the right insurance plan... or, as in my case, none of the doctors in your immediate area will accept the plan you are on so you must arrange for special transport and go 30 or more miles down the road and back for a 15 minute appointment... :x

Now here's the sick thing when it comes to the "non-profit/cult" (as it applies here) guru plan... you can retain all the above "benefits" and not get penalized for the various spiffs said charity provide for you such as living quarters, transportation, male prostitutes, etc. You can live high on the proverbial hog so long as the money trails does not show that you are seeing direct personal gain by way of your "church" or "education foundation". Again, I know this because I watched it happen with one of the evangelic uncles of mine... a guy that would sell his own mother to make a buck but because he was a preacher... a "good" Christian, he was better than me :roll: ... but that's another story... the focus is, the clown was playing the very same style of game Randi is currently playing and when it comes to preachers or "educators" tied to any such element, they can get away with oodles and it's 100% legal though a good 99% unethical. :x

:oops: Yes, this is a touchy subject for me. How is one to legally get ahead or back on their feet when set into this kind of limbo? :(
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