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Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby highflyertoo » 10 Aug 2009, 10:36

Randi did very well to expose Peter Popoff's FAKERY ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNl52deO ... L&index=32

Yet Randi has fallen into to a ''self made pit'' when assuming that everyone is FAKING IT. Randi is ''Self Deluded'' from catching out a couple of Swindlers.

Randi is still trying to ride the wave that gave him popularity after debunking Peter Popoff and Wife.

Randis supportors should realize; to catch a Thief does not make him Chief
Randi was no researcher of the paranormal even though he tried half heartedly.... Shows over.
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby ciscop » 11 Aug 2009, 02:31

and?
how do you feel about Peter Popoff?
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby Jim-Callahan » 11 Aug 2009, 06:49

Heck I know I have put up allot of cash to give Randi what he wanted but he runs.

Looks like he only has his teeth in when he is sure it will not be real.
(His boy Angel was the same way).

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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby Azrael » 11 Aug 2009, 07:06

Jim-Callahan wrote:Heck I know I have put up allot of cash to give Randi what he wanted but he runs.

Looks like he only has his teeth in when he is sure it will not be real.
(His boy Angel was the same way).

Jim


Randi wants proof of the paranormal you cannot give him that or you would have applied for the MDC when Jeff Wagg offered you. Instead you ran.

Meanwhile I'm still waiting in these threads for answers to these questions
I called him to back up his lies. you can help him if you like. Or ignore the question like you normally do.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=241&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php? ... ost4071416

I find your logic to be faulty. For the record, I checked the challenge account at Goldman Sachs and it contains well over the amount required for the challenge. If you have a better source than the investment firm holding the funds, please share it with me.

Well I didnt see you or Dave answer that,so Im assuming you are full of BS as always.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=154&start=250

When you're ready. Hell I know it's embarassing getting beat at mind games by a Brit but you'll get used to it. Dave has.
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby ciscop » 11 Aug 2009, 07:33

Jim-Callahan wrote:Heck I know I have put up allot of cash to give Randi what he wanted but he runs.

Looks like he only has his teeth in when he is sure it will not be real.
(His boy Angel was the same way).

Jim


Well.. at least this guy is like peter popoff
he gets ¨messages¨from a ¨ghost¨

mm.. well kind of.. ¨he is an entertainer¨
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby highflyertoo » 11 Aug 2009, 09:43

To Jim.

My understanding of James Randi is he will only go for people that he pre-knows are ''faking it''.
The best example was of when Randi stung James Hydrich about the telephone book scam.

What Randi did in advance was to do the research on how to prevent ''air movement'' lifting the telephone book pages.Randi found in the Laboratory with his helpers that by placing the polystyrene on the table next to the book would surely prevent Hydrich from continuing in the test.

Randi only exposes people when he can sink his publicity teeth into the unaware victim. Randi never takes true challengers, they are all filed in the too hard basket.

Randi only wants a contest he can win on TV. Hence the dodgey bogus MDC Rules.
Randi was no researcher of the paranormal even though he tried half heartedly.... Shows over.
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby Ozz » 11 Aug 2009, 13:53

Azrael wrote:Randi wants proof of the paranormal you cannot give him that or you would have applied for the MDC when Jeff Wagg offered you. Instead you ran.


Indeed.

From Jeff Wagg himself:

Post #14 at http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=124599

I'll state this again for this thread.

If Jim Callahan can perform as he did on Phenomenon, under proper observing conditions, he would win the million.

As for his claim, he claims to be in communication with an entity by the name of Raymond Hill, who can see inside sealed objects. At least that's my take on what I saw on Phenomenon. I'm hoping Jim will clarify further, or correct me if I'm wrong.

But first, he must apply.
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby ciscop » 11 Aug 2009, 14:13

run from this thread jim! run!
the skeptic boogeyman is destroying your act and career yet AGAIN
:D
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby highflyertoo » 11 Aug 2009, 15:16

The ineloquent skeptics have missed the point again.

It's Randi who finalizes the ''protocol''. If Randi feels threatened by claimants, then Randi pull the pin and aborts.

Randi's MDC is what should be called FLIM FLAM.
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby ciscop » 12 Aug 2009, 03:22

im sorry
but in what world that happened?

jeff asked jim to do his magic trick i mean... ¨channeling¨ act
and now jref is running?
jim is the one running!
he was invited.. and keeps jumping the question.. go and do the challenge!
he wont take the challenge, i guess he doesnt need a million dollars or the publicity that will give him.. naaaah.. he is better off making rants in forums and youtube videos nobody is watching (his best one is the one he didnt produce but the one where he gets mad at criss angel)

run jimmy run
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby General Zod » 12 Aug 2009, 03:30

Jim-Callahan wrote:Heck I know I have put up allot of cash to give Randi what he wanted but he runs.

Looks like he only has his teeth in when he is sure it will not be real.
(His boy Angel was the same way).

Jim


Ah, that would explain why Criss Angel humiliated you on live TV. He went for the kill because he was absolutely sure you were not for real!
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby Azrael » 12 Aug 2009, 03:56

highflyertoo wrote:The ineloquent skeptics have missed the point again.

It's Randi who finalizes the ''protocol''. If Randi feels threatened by claimants, then Randi pull the pin and aborts.

Randi's MDC is what should be called FLIM FLAM.


Prove this please?
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby ProfWag » 12 Aug 2009, 04:25

highflyertoo wrote:The ineloquent skeptics have missed the point again.

It's Randi who finalizes the ''protocol''. If Randi feels threatened by claimants, then Randi pull the pin and aborts.

Randi's MDC is what should be called FLIM FLAM.

No, you're incorrect. The claimant finalizes the protocol. The claimant states they can do something. The claimant submits the protocol to prove they can do what they claim. For more clarification and specific information, see Jim Callahan's protocol submission on the JREF forum.
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby highflyertoo » 12 Aug 2009, 11:44

ProfWag wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:The ineloquent skeptics have missed the point again.

It's Randi who finalizes the ''protocol''. If Randi feels threatened by claimants, then Randi pull the pin and aborts.

Randi's MDC is what should be called FLIM FLAM.

No, you're incorrect. The claimant finalizes the protocol. The claimant states they can do something. The claimant submits the protocol to prove they can do what they claim. For more clarification and specific information, see Jim Callahan's protocol submission on the JREF forum.
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How am I incorrect ? ... Randi accepts the protocol or he says walk, So Randi says if the applicant is approved.


So what has Jim Callahan actually done on Phenomenon ? What's the link, ProfWag ?
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Re: Randi thinks all people are like Peter Popoff

Postby ProfWag » 12 Aug 2009, 23:23

highflyertoo wrote:
ProfWag wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:The ineloquent skeptics have missed the point again.

It's Randi who finalizes the ''protocol''. If Randi feels threatened by claimants, then Randi pull the pin and aborts.

Randi's MDC is what should be called FLIM FLAM.

No, you're incorrect. The claimant finalizes the protocol. The claimant states they can do something. The claimant submits the protocol to prove they can do what they claim. For more clarification and specific information, see Jim Callahan's protocol submission on the JREF forum.
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How am I incorrect ? ... Randi accepts the protocol or he says walk, So Randi says if the applicant is approved.


So what has Jim Callahan actually done on Phenomenon ? What's the link, ProfWag ?

You were incorrect in saying Randi finalizes the protocol when actually, it's the claimant who provides the protocol. Randi meerly accepts whether the protocal is without the possibility of trickery. If someone has a true paranormal ability, this is quite a simple procedure.

As for my Callahan comment, I don't think I mentioned Phenomon, but did mention his submission on the JREF forum. I was actually making a joke as he has not submitted a protocol to the JREF, but he likes people to think he has.
Since you asked about what Callahan did on Phenomon, he did an extremely simple magic trick. I actually thought his presentation was well done, but it was a simple magic trick none-the-less.
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