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Will u skeptics admit Randi was wrong to lie re: Sheldrake?

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Re: Will u skeptics admit Randi was wrong to lie re: Sheldrake?

Postby ciscop » 11 Aug 2009, 12:05

and we still know what you are,
even thought we cant call you that

i think there´s a lot of funny material going on in here
a magician fixated on randi who wont built a case to proof his paranormal abilities.. you will just slander randi...
what a joke you are sir

answer the question
WHAT WAS YOUR PARANORMAL CLAIM ???

jump dave jump!!
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Re: Will u skeptics admit Randi was wrong to lie re: Sheldrake?

Postby Scepcop » 13 Aug 2009, 04:55

SeanRMR wrote:By the looks of it we don't have to admit anything as Randi himself has already admitted it.
"I overstated my case for doubting the reality of dog ESP based on the small amount of data I obtained. It was rash and improper of me to do so."

and Randi now admits that he has never seen the tape.


But do you admit that it was wrong for Randi to lie like that? You agree that it was wrong of him to do that, right? Be honest.
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Re: Will u skeptics admit Randi was wrong to lie re: Sheldrake?

Postby Scepcop » 13 Aug 2009, 05:00

Ozz wrote:
The Professor wrote:
So ..... NO PSEUDO-SKEPTICS ARE MAN ENOUGH !!!!!!

How's it feel to have a leader that has been proven a LIAR so many times?


I don't consider James Randi my leader. This is another fine example of the kind of narrow minded behavior still demonstrated by religious fundamentalists like The Professor. In his world, he needs someone to tell him what to do. However skeptics and atheists are whats known as "free-thinkers" - which means we think for ourselves, and don't wait for someone else to instruct us as to what our opinion should be.

You're a very sad man Dave.


So if you have a "free mind" that is uninfluenced, then what does your free mind think of the lie about Sheldrake admitted to by James Randi? Was it wrong of him to do that?
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Re: Will u skeptics admit Randi was wrong to lie re: Sheldrake?

Postby ciscop » 13 Aug 2009, 14:15

the funny thing is
instead of building a case of his own
paranormalists then to attack scientists and skeptics
.. like if thats is going to proove something.. naaaah
is not

if i am wrong in whichever subject
it doesnt means atlantis is rising
it justs means I AM WRONG
thats it

build a case for atlantis
thats science... but naaah
buiding a case isnt paranormal
its better to critize
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Re: Will u skeptics admit Randi was wrong to lie re: Sheldrake?

Postby HurricaneHeidi » 04 Oct 2009, 11:51

Scepcop wrote:
Ozz wrote:
The Professor wrote:
So ..... NO PSEUDO-SKEPTICS ARE MAN ENOUGH !!!!!!

How's it feel to have a leader that has been proven a LIAR so many times?


I don't consider James Randi my leader. This is another fine example of the kind of narrow minded behavior still demonstrated by religious fundamentalists like The Professor. In his world, he needs someone to tell him what to do. However skeptics and atheists are whats known as "free-thinkers" - which means we think for ourselves, and don't wait for someone else to instruct us as to what our opinion should be.

You're a very sad man Dave.


So if you have a "free mind" that is uninfluenced, then what does your free mind think of the lie about Sheldrake admitted to by James Randi? Was it wrong of him to do that?


I thought it would be worthwhile to post Rupert Sheldrake's description of the Randi incident in his own words:



As well as his recorded experiment with the dog Jaytee:

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Re: Will u skeptics admit Randi was wrong to lie re: Sheldrake?

Postby brett » 04 Oct 2009, 13:36

at the end of the day this is simple , NO ONE ,not sheldrake ,not randi , or anyone else REALLY knows how a dog thinks - what a dog sees , what if any extra senses a dog has or how he/she utilizes them - because none of you are DOGS !! ( unless of course you happened to be a dog in a past life :lol: :lol: )

of course as usual MAN has decided he "KNOWS" what dogs think/feel/see/sense etc etc - but again the point being is, that NOT even the most eminent of scientists can ACTUALLY KNOW , as they are NOT and can never BE the dog

may be we could ask a dogs opinion , oh sorry i forgot , they don't ( or won't ) talk :lol: :lol:

jeez guys , this is a pretty poor excuse for randi/sheldrake bashing - and as as usual degenerated into a name calling exercise :roll:
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