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Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Kevin Kane » 09 Feb 2010, 05:33

I'm a human from the planet earth. Where are you from?
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 09 Feb 2010, 05:45

Kevin Kane wrote:I'm a human from the planet earth. Where are you from?

oh, i can see the difference
i am a critical thinking human
:D
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Kevin Kane » 09 Feb 2010, 07:21

So, would ciscop describe himself as an oil shill?



Sketpic pharm shills don't want people having alternative medicine because they have doubts about it.

Skeptic oil shills don't want people having alternative energy because they have doubts about it.

No wonder Michael Shermer looks and acts so oily, waiting to get greased.

Skeptics are like the old guy drivers who slow everyone down, clogging the wheels of progress.

Kids today, with their pscyhic powers, clean energy and safe medicine. Back in my day, we'd brush our teeth with petroleum and then eat a bowl of coal tar ... and we'd like it, dagnabbit!
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 09 Feb 2010, 08:27

i am all for alternative energy sources :-D

i dont think there´s such thing as a psychic
if so, i would like to see one
i have been terrible dissapointed so far
i have seen more than 10 so far,
that isnt scientific, just my personal experience

and i dont care about oil companies in particular
i do care about scam artists robbing people, that´s not cool
no matter if you are an oil company, a jew banker or oprah
stealing isnt ok in my book
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Kevin Kane » 09 Feb 2010, 08:44

People who experience the paranormal don't care if you don't believe them. And they're not interested in proving stuff to chronic doubt queens. They just want to be left alone from crazy stalker skeptics.

It's a matter of character. Most skeptics are on the shady side of the street.

Would you buy a used car from Penn Gillette? NO! You would never buy anything from Penn Gillette except a ticket to his show. And don't shake his hand or invite him over for dinner. Not a good idea.

And James Randi is like the gay stalker from hell; He'd track Uri Geller down to the ends of the earth. Any why? Just because Uri is a better performer?
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 09 Feb 2010, 09:38

randi is a critical thinker
lover of rationalism and truth

uri geller is a scam artist
that supports psychic stuff because is part of his act
only dummies dont seem to notice it
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Kevin Kane » 09 Feb 2010, 11:18

ciscop wrote:i am all for alternative energy sources :-D

i dont think there´s such thing as a psychic
if so, i would like to see one
i have been terrible dissapointed so far
i have seen more than 10 so far,
that isnt scientific, just my personal experience

and i dont care about oil companies in particular
i do care about scam artists robbing people, that´s not cool
no matter if you are an oil company, a jew banker or oprah
stealing isnt ok in my book


Let me explain a little of how the real world works. Scientists go where the money is, where the funding is. And who controls the funding? The people who HAVE the money .. mostly business, some government funding. They pay the piper, they pay the tune. They control the research, they control the market. And they control the PR, the advertising, what people think.

And they compete against other technologies, practices and products. Against upstarts and alternatives.

And they play dirty. That's where skeptics come in. Skeptics are the bottom-feeders of competetive big business. Skeptics help to suppress market alternatives.


Cycle of life, amigo.
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby highflyertoo » 09 Feb 2010, 11:25

Yes well Randi is a Jew and Uri is a Jew.

Randi's beef about Geller is the younger Jewish man outshone the Old Jewish man.

Put simply..... Randi went from Frontstage to Backstage...... Randi really needs to examine his inner thoughts.
Randi was no researcher of the paranormal even though he tried half heartedly.... Shows over.
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Kevin Kane » 09 Feb 2010, 13:06

James Randi is jewish? I thought he was a robot. Maybe one of those spooky antique Santa Claus automatons.

*bbbzzzzz* -- Ho .. *bzzzzz* -- Ho .. *bzzzzzcreak* -- Ho.
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 10 Feb 2010, 03:40

Kevin Kane wrote:James Randi is jewish? I thought he was a robot. Maybe one of those spooky antique Santa Claus automatons.

*bbbzzzzz* -- Ho .. *bzzzzz* -- Ho .. *bzzzzzcreak* -- Ho.


i didnt know randi was jewish
.. who knew
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 10 Feb 2010, 03:46

Randi can't be Santa Claus. Here's the proof:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2399-LA-Luxur ... anta-Claus
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby highflyertoo » 10 Feb 2010, 08:38

So there's no way of proving everthing what Uri done was trickery.

What about the Science Lab tests....... Randi and Co were not there to witness..

Paranormal Believers 1

Skeptic Crowers 0
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 11 Feb 2010, 01:58

lets add to the score

What about Randi at TIME MAGAZINE, he was there incognito and reproduced successfully all the parlor tricks URI geller did, debunking geller for the first time.

Randi 1
Uri 0

What about Randi talking with TONIGHT show producers telling them how they could prevent trickery from gelller?.. Geller went into the studio and failed miserably

Randi 2
Uri 0

What about a Book Randi Made about geller? putting in jeopardy the reputation of this ¨psychic¨ telling all his secrets?

Randi 3
Uri 0

What about Randi winning in the law curts, since Geller couldnt prove he has psychic powers?

Randi 4
Uri 0


That´s a beating!
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Kevin Kane » 11 Feb 2010, 11:33

ciscop wrote:lets add to the score

What about Randi at TIME MAGAZINE, he was there incognito and reproduced successfully all the parlor tricks URI geller did, debunking geller for the first time.


He reproduced Uri's tricks poorly and many magicians have said the same.

What about Randi talking with TONIGHT show producers telling them how they could prevent trickery from gelller?.. Geller went into the studio and failed miserably


Damping effect.

What about a Book Randi Made about geller? putting in jeopardy the reputation of this ¨psychic¨ telling all his secrets?


Creepy gay stalker writes vanity book, exposes nothing.


What about Randi winning in the law curts, since Geller couldnt prove he has psychic powers?


It wasn't about proving psychic powers, Geller sued Randi & CISCOP for defamation. CISCOP was not responsible and the case was ruled frivolous.

In an earlier case in Japan, stalker Randi slandered Uri. Uri won the case.

That´s a beating!


Yup, Randi is a loser.
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Kevin Kane » 11 Feb 2010, 13:32

James Randi began with the theory that Uri Geller was using altered spoons in his performance. He achieved some validation for his theory on the Carson show. But in 40 years since, Randi has yet to provide evidence that Geller is using altered spoons. Nor has he credibly replicated Geller's feat.

What's the explanation for Randi's inability to follow up with proof? To do real science?
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