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Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 01 Aug 2009, 09:46

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Ozz » 03 Aug 2009, 16:25

Great post!
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 03 Aug 2009, 16:31

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Scepcop » 03 Aug 2009, 23:54

“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 04 Aug 2009, 01:06

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Scepcop » 04 Aug 2009, 04:01

“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Jon Saint Germain » 04 Aug 2009, 04:22

Exposing methods has been proven to be ineffective in convincing people that fraudulent practitioners are cheating. All it does is make things harder for legitimate performers.

I'm becoming very disillusioned with this forum. I thought it was supposed to be supportive of legitimate practitioners of entertainment.

Sigh.

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Scepcop » 04 Aug 2009, 04:29

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 04 Aug 2009, 04:53

he isnt unexplained
randi has said before that geller only has 5 tricks
spoon bending, key bending, drawing duplication, moving a compass and the 5 symbols predictions

in the videos
it shows How he bends the spoon with sleight of hand and misdirection, it shows how he does the drawing duplication and how he moves the compass.. 3 of his 5 tricks are explained in those videos and he is using normal ways of doing what he does

if you wanna take him for real
is you problem, but is like seeing david copperfield flying and beliving is truth just because you want to believe
uri geller is a magician
he even was on the cover of Genii magazine (magician´s magazine)

watch how easy it is (lots of practice in sleight of hand in misdirection)
to do this in a normal way WITHOUT having to say you are doing it with your mind
like uri does


also he didnt find oil
he was contracted by an australian oil company by the ceo of the company
he dowsed over a map and pointed to a bunch of locations
he didnt find the oil
and the ceo of that company was expelled from the company
dont you think if he had find oil he will have that information on his site?
thats when it stops being entertainment and becomes a scam
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 04 Aug 2009, 05:02

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 04 Aug 2009, 05:26

by the way i saw the video you posted
the number is done with a swami
it is a thumb tip you can write with,

the use of the swami is explained full on 13 steps to mentalism by corinda
http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1093

and the psychometry is done with a small magnet on his left hand

this were not controlled situations
magicians can fool scientist
this was prooved by the project alpha
didnt you know about it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1S5CRcqJQo

you are ignorant in the topic of magic like most people are, hence you get cheated really easily because you dont know what to look for
geller is as real as any other magician, why do you think he stops being a psychic and now is mystifier? he is haunted by that
appears to me than some have been brain washed by geller
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 05 Aug 2009, 01:49

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Scepcop » 08 Aug 2009, 15:55

Here is a video by my friend John Benneth, a member of SCEPCOP, defending Uri Geller. He makes some valid points.

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Scepcop » 08 Aug 2009, 16:09

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Azrael » 08 Aug 2009, 17:25

I'm always very skeptical of any situation where someone's notability hinges on their connection to another notable person
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