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Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby Scepcop » 27 Jul 2009, 01:31

From Dragon*Con 2008 "Skeptics vs. Believers Debate" - James Randi (an audience member for this) challenges Graham Watkins to take the JREF $1 million challenge



Why do people always wimp out when Randi confronts them? Sheesh. There is one person that Randi runs from that I know, and that is John Benneth. Benneth is very melodramatic, outspoken and not afraid of anybody.
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby Azrael » 27 Jul 2009, 01:41

Scepcop wrote:From Dragon*Con 2008 "Skeptics vs. Believers Debate" - James Randi (an audience member for this) challenges Graham Watkins to take the JREF $1 million challenge



Why do people always wimp out when Randi confronts them? Sheesh. There is one person that Randi runs from that I know, and that is John Benneth. Benneth is very melodramatic, outspoken and not afraid of anybody.


Evidence that Randi ran away?

Let me turn this on its head. I think I asked you once before,but anyway. Where is the scientific peer reviewed evidence in a journal you can cite-for Homeopathy.

Do this then we can discuss your silly video.
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby highflyertoo » 27 Jul 2009, 10:06

I like it when Graham Watkins replies to Randi with the line , '' I don't accept you ''.

Now that's a classic :D
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby Scepcop » 27 Jul 2009, 21:40

Azrael, scientific peer reviewed evidence for Homeopathy have been posted for many years. John Benneth recently sent some to Michael Shermer. Shermer's response was "it's all bunk". So what's the point? You keep raising the bar. That's irrational.

Some stuff about was already posted in the Homeopathy board on this forum.
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby Azrael » 27 Jul 2009, 22:42

Scepcop wrote:Azrael, scientific peer reviewed evidence for Homeopathy have been posted for many years. John Benneth recently sent some to Michael Shermer. Shermer's response was "it's all bunk". So what's the point? You keep raising the bar. That's irrational.

Some stuff about was already posted in the Homeopathy board on this forum.


Has it? Well kindly link me to where I can read said proof. Certainly these scientists could do with it http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/ ... opathy-hiv
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby The Professor » 28 Jul 2009, 15:08

Randi lies at least twice on this tape ... he says that the JREF doesn't do the test! .... They just did at TAM.... WOW!!!!
That was easy! ( They also did it with a girl who said she could make Jeff Wagg pee his pants at the JREF headquarters)


He also says that he will wave the preliminary test but the JREF email to me ( a current applicant at the time) says the the JREF NEVER does this!

http://www.youtube.com/professorslimkin ... OSyIEj1QtU

The JREF's Alison Smith and Randi tell different stories .. One is Lying!

Just scratching the surface here :)
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby highflyertoo » 28 Jul 2009, 16:37

The Professor wrote:Randi lies at least twice on this tape ... he says that the JREF doesn't do the test! .... They just did at TAM.... WOW!!!!
That was easy! ( They also did it with a girl who said she could make Jeff Wagg pee his pants at the JREF headquarters)


He also says that he will wave the preliminary test but the JREF email to me ( a current applicant at the time) says the the JREF NEVER does this!

http://www.youtube.com/professorslimkin ... OSyIEj1QtU

The JREF's Alison Smith and Randi tell different stories .. One is Lying!

Just scratching the surface here :)


Randi says that no one has passed the preliminary test. Um what about the people who Randi waived the ''preliminary test'' for ??
Randi's Rules state that no one can sit the Real Test unless first passing the preliminary test. And Randi says that unless you ''pass'' the preliminary test, then you are not eligible to sit the Real Test ? Confusing to say the least.
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby Scepcop » 28 Jul 2009, 19:54

Azrael wrote:
Scepcop wrote:Azrael, scientific peer reviewed evidence for Homeopathy have been posted for many years. John Benneth recently sent some to Michael Shermer. Shermer's response was "it's all bunk". So what's the point? You keep raising the bar. That's irrational.

Some stuff about was already posted in the Homeopathy board on this forum.


Has it? Well kindly link me to where I can read said proof. Certainly these scientists could do with it http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/ ... opathy-hiv


Here you go:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=53
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby The Professor » 29 Jul 2009, 00:16

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/professorslimking#play/uploads/5/QOSyIEj1QtU[/youtube]

Here is the Question ... Who was Lying ..James or Alison .. One of them is guilty :evil:
just compare the videos and you will see the truth!

Tried to embed this ..???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOSyIEj1 ... rofilepage
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby skeprogue » 29 Jul 2009, 00:38

highflyertoo wrote:Randi says that no one has passed the preliminary test. Um what about the people who Randi waived the ''preliminary test'' for ??
Randi's Rules state that no one can sit the Real Test unless first passing the preliminary test. And Randi says that unless you ''pass'' the preliminary test, then you are not eligible to sit the Real Test ? Confusing to say the least.


Easy: none of the people for whom Randi has offered to waive the prelim have seen fit to even apply for the Challenge.
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby The Professor » 29 Jul 2009, 00:46

Because it's RIGGED!!!!!!

OK ..Which one was lying ..Alison Smith of the JREF or james randi?

Logically there is only one telling the truth and one lying. Who is it?
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby ciscop » 29 Jul 2009, 06:31

i know thar you are lying
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby Azrael » 29 Jul 2009, 06:35

The Professor wrote:Because it's RIGGED!!!!!!


Proof of this is ?

OK ..Which one was lying ..Alison Smith of the JREF or james randi?

Logically there is only one telling the truth and one lying. Who is it?


You know nothing of logic. But plenty about lying.
You have been rattling on about this for a year now. No-ne cared then no- one cares now.
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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby Jim-Callahan » 29 Jul 2009, 10:03

Heck I thought it a bit strange they were working out Daves/Slims protocal but when he started asking for proof of the cash all things closed down.

They never have proven they had the million when he asked and if they did not the challenge they offered was a con.

I would love to see proof that they really had the cash when Slim/Dave asked and consider it very stange they could not provide proof.

You gotta love those who defend the con and are blind in ignorance.

Heck how they rail against me is a great example of how lost these people are.
Really verging on mental illness at this point I do think.

But that is just my opinion.

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Re: Video: Randi confronts Graham Watkins at DragonCon

Postby Frank Lee » 29 Jul 2009, 10:37

Jim-Callahan wrote:Heck I thought it a bit strange they were working out Daves/Slims protocal but when he started asking for proof of the cash all things closed down.

They never have proven they had the million when he asked and if they did not the challenge they offered was a con.

I would love to see proof that they really had the cash when Slim/Dave asked and consider it very stange they could not provide proof.

You gotta love those who defend the con and are blind in ignorance.

Heck how they rail against me is a great example of how lost these people are.
Really verging on mental illness at this point I do think.

But that is just my opinion.

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If people railing is a sign of mental illness we've got some prospective patients around here. You know the ones. The nobodies who rave on about successful people like James Randi and Criss Angel who they pitifully tried to attach themselves to but failed. People whose only fame is a handful of people responding to their narcissism and mud slinging on one of the few boards they haven't been thrown off of. People who make unsubstantiated claims and flat out lie because they don't have any real evidence against the targets of their sad little smear campaigns.

I hope you'll play along with a response that is fitting of my expectations, Jim.

But I know you will.

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