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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby The Professor » 12 Mar 2010, 10:08

Sorry ... I don't stoop to your level. I don't have the time for that either. But I'm sure you do.
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby Azrael » 12 Mar 2010, 19:54

Oh The Professor is back is he.Not getting the attention on magic talk so comes here.Sad.

Hows the straitjacket on your daughter? Hows Det Draisin? Still waiting for my ISP to shut me down too. Hows Jim's lame radio show? I guess the one episode was so successful he doesnt have to make any more. :lol:
It's Jim''s show so why not devote a show to this topic,too cowardly maybe? Or does being a theme park mascot take up too much time?
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby The Professor » 12 Mar 2010, 21:48

Azrael wrote:Oh The Professor is back is he.Not getting the attention on magic talk so comes here.Sad.

Hows the straitjacket on your daughter? Hows Det Draisin? Still waiting for my ISP to shut me down too. Hows Jim's lame radio show? I guess the one episode was so successful he doesnt have to make any more. :lol:
It's Jim''s show so why not devote a show to this topic,too cowardly maybe? Or does being a theme park mascot take up too much time?


Still threatening my children I see!
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby Azrael » 13 Mar 2010, 00:20

The Professor wrote:
Azrael wrote:Oh The Professor is back is he.Not getting the attention on magic talk so comes here.Sad.

Hows the straitjacket on your daughter? Hows Det Draisin? Still waiting for my ISP to shut me down too. Hows Jim's lame radio show? I guess the one episode was so successful he doesnt have to make any more. :lol:
It's Jim''s show so why not devote a show to this topic,too cowardly maybe? Or does being a theme park mascot take up too much time?


Still threatening my children I see!


Now I know you arent very bright, but surely you know the defintion of"threatening"? No? Ok here it is ,read it then post where the threat is.

Main Entry: 1threat
Pronunciation: \ˈthret\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English thret coercion, threat, from Old English thrēat coercion; akin to Middle High German drōz annoyance, Latin trudere to push, thrust
Date: before 12th century
1 : an expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage
2 : one that threatens
3 : an indication of something impending <the sky held a threat of rain>


Off you go. :roll:
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby highflyertoo » 15 Mar 2010, 07:49

The Professor hasn't been here for yonks and guess who suddenly makes a comment against the Professor?..... Does Azrael sit by the computer 24/7 waiting for the Professor? You got some issue's there Azrael...... Get Help Now!
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby ciscop » 15 Mar 2010, 18:02

The Professor wrote:
Still threatening my children I see!


threatening??
what are you talking about???
i didnt know it was possible to be able to type without knowing how to read

i guess watching teletubbies while drinking crystal skull vodka can mess up with your brain
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby Azrael » 15 Mar 2010, 19:11

highflyertoo wrote:The Professor hasn't been here for yonks and guess who suddenly makes a comment against the Professor?..... Does Azrael sit by the computer 24/7 waiting for the Professor? You got some issue's there Azrael...... Get Help Now!


Has the statue moved yet? Loser.
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby NinjaPuppy » 15 Mar 2010, 19:22

Azreal - You have been warned about the name calling.
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby ciscop » 15 Mar 2010, 23:38

highflyertoo wrote:The Professor hasn't been here for yonks and guess who suddenly makes a comment against the Professor?..... Does Azrael sit by the computer 24/7 waiting for the Professor? You got some issue's there Azrael...... Get Help Now!


get help?
arent you the guy that believes the bible is for real and fights statues?
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby highflyertoo » 16 Mar 2010, 09:55

ciscop wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:The Professor hasn't been here for yonks and guess who suddenly makes a comment against the Professor?..... Does Azrael sit by the computer 24/7 waiting for the Professor? You got some issue's there Azrael...... Get Help Now!


get help?
arent you the guy that believes the bible is for real and fights statues?


:D :D :D :D YES :D :D :D :D
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby ciscop » 16 Mar 2010, 15:35

so where's the professor?

not sure if it is paranormal but
i swear sometimes when i read his comments i can sense the smell of vodka
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby NucleicAcid » 26 Mar 2010, 04:47

I just want to add my $0.02, because I hate liars.

As we all know, Randi just came out as gay. I think that is wonderful, and I am happy he has the strength to come out with it after hiding it after all these years. I have many gay, queer, and bisexual friends, and I know that learning about yourself occurs at a young age, usually in teens or twenties, so he's likely lived with this and hid this for 60 or so years. I can't imagine the pressure, although, he has made a living hiding stuff from people.

However, I think it really puts a new twist on the Randi Telephone Sex Tapes story.

Look guys, Occam's Razor!!

Which story is more plausible? (quotes are paraphrased)

Story #1) Some kids get a hold of Randi's phone number. They spread it around and crank call him a bunch of times. Randi gets involved with the police, ostensibly to help catch pedophiles. These conversations get extremely graphic, talks of soliciting oral sex for money, and worries of one of the kids about committing illegal acts and getting caught by the police. Alas, it's all just part of the show to catch...crank callers? Pedophiles? (I'm frankly not sure who the sting would be targeting.) Randi's public story has changed several times over the course of the years because, well, actually I don't know why he's retracted several statements on the matter. Records of Randi's involvement collaborating with the police are nonexistent. Any actual court files involving the kids would be sealed, naturally, but again, no evidence.

Story #2) Randi is into younger guys. Totally fine in and of itself. He puts his phone number on a bathroom stall, possibly with a pseudonym. Perhaps also circulates his phone number amongst some of his friends. Some younger boys, perhaps a little too young even, curious, unsure of themselves, but intrigued, call up. Conversations build up, get explicit, sizing each other up, the types of things they'd want to do, talks of getting together. "How old are you?" "...17..." Close enough. The boy worries about getting caught because he might be perhaps a bit too young? It's okay, Randi's house is safe. Ran out of time on the anonymous payphone? "Give me your number, I'll call you back." Later down the road, tapes get exposed during trial. Randi tacitly realizes the damage this information could do to his reputation in the wrong hands. After the trial thing blows over, pours tremendous resources into making the tapes and any knowledge of their existence disappear like a rabbit into a hat. He has good friends in high places, and a bit of money to swing around. The tapes all but vanish until they wind up in the hands of someone sick of Randi lying all over the place and changing the facts. Randi's statements on the matter go from saying that it wasn't him (denial), but when that gets found out to be a lie, switches to, "Oh, it's a joke." When that too is found to be a lie, he comes up with the story of Working With The Police To Catch Assorted Bad Peoples.

Which story really sounds more plausible? That he got the police involved and used a rather in-depth method to catch some local kids making crank calls that just happen to sound like making plans for sex? Or in his past, Randi did in fact make telephone calls with young boys (technically ephebophilia, pedophilia is pre-pubescent, which hasn't been totally ruled out, either), and used his grace at magic, lying, and concealment to cover up a past that might tarnish his reputation, regardless of legality?

I don't have as much of a problem with his alleged actions involving phone calls (even though as many shows in recent history have shown that this is, at times, a very serious problem. But as for older men soliciting sex with younger men, this happens all the time, and is not at all a bad thing, so long as it is truly consensual and legal according to jurisdiction) as I do with him being an all-around liar, cheat, manipulator, and generally dishonest person, not to mention having a rather bitter, cynical personality.

Skepticism, people. Simplest explanation. Occam's Razor. Invisible pink...collaborations with law enforcement?
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby Azrael » 26 Mar 2010, 07:28

Occams Razor I dont think applies here.Do you have any evidence he lied? Just because he is gay makes no difference to his word of truth.

35 pages no proof that Randi lied. Care to offer some?
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby highflyertoo » 26 Mar 2010, 13:03

Azrael wrote:Occams Razor I dont think applies here.Do you have any evidence he lied? Just because he is gay makes no difference to his word of truth.

35 pages no proof that Randi lied. Care to offer some?


What evidence have you about Randi speaking the Truth?.... Could you imagine if the head of JREF was a rapist of boys as may be the case?

I think Randi ''preyed'' on young males minds to ENTICE them to perform lewd homosexual acts... Catholic's Priests have been doing that for over a thousand years. Randi is a predator?.
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Re: JREF Blackmail Tapes

Postby Azrael » 26 Mar 2010, 19:41

HIghflyertoo as has been stated police were involved in this case. Do you think if Randi had comitted a crime no-one would know about it? Why have his enemies not dug up nay dirt? The "victims" if there are any dont seem to havbe spoken out.

Just because you are fooolish enough to believe hearsay.
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