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Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby highflyertoo » 26 Mar 2010, 16:15

Too much onesided censorship favouring homo's
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby highflyertoo » 26 Mar 2010, 16:23

highflyertoo wrote:Too much onesided censorship favouring homo's


This is like when someone disagrees against Obama, they say ''he's a racist''..... So when someone disagrees against homosexuals, they say ''he's homophobic''......

Ok if this site is truly about the paranormal,then show some scientific evidence SCEPCOP.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby Eteponge » 26 Mar 2010, 19:42

The problem here, is that you continually use "homo" insult slurs and the like, and rather than making VALID arguments against Randi (such as pointing out flaws in his arguments, or the times he had inaccurately attacked Paranormal Research, etc) you instead make attack arguments against him based upon him being homosexual, which is Ad-Hominem.

That would be like as if rather than someone arguing against Obama's policies and politics directly, etc, they instead made a thread arguing against him because he's black, and continue to use racist slurs against him.

That's the equivalent of what you are doing.

And now you make a "you guys favor homos!" post.

If you had stuck to arguing against Randi's tactics, methods, arguments, etc, that's perfectly fine. Going the "He's a homo!" route as a form of argument is not kosher.

You have also continued to make the same thread again after it was closed down due to it descending into a gay bash fest.

This, and the many prior complaints against you, and your unwillingness to listen to Mods and stop gay bashing and Ad-Hominem, and even calling for a change of Mods because we don't hate homosexuals, make me come to a very logical decision...

Enjoy your ban.

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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby Eteponge » 26 Mar 2010, 19:45

I don't think I'm unfair in this decision. Gay bashing has no place here. Making repeat threads dedicated to attacking someone just because they are homosexual has no place here. This place should be about debating based upon one's arguments, research, data, etc, not attacking someone based upon sexual orientation. Am I wrong?

Please, give me your opinions. Either way. I'm open to hearing them.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby NinjaPuppy » 26 Mar 2010, 19:53

I'm with you Eteponge. HF2 has been warned about this and obviously he has decided to continue this behavior.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby Nostradamus » 26 Mar 2010, 20:13

It is a common misconception that free speech means anything goes.

I think that the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
says it succinctly:
Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak without censorship and/or limitation. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes used to indicate not only freedom of verbal speech but any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on "hate speech".


Forums do not have to tolerate all forms of expression either. There are lots of places to discuss things online. This forum is not a good choice for discussions on sports, computer programming, or car repair. It is also a bad choice for hate speech. I did a search and there are plenty of places HF2 can join to make his statements and feel welcome.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby Craig Browning » 26 Mar 2010, 20:20

Where did my post go to this thread :roll:
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby NinjaPuppy » 26 Mar 2010, 20:24

Craig Browning wrote:Where did my post go to this thread :roll:

Can you give me the 'Reader's Digest' version of what it said? I see no deletions in any topic at all.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby Eteponge » 26 Mar 2010, 20:26

NinjaPuppy wrote:
Craig Browning wrote:Where did my post go to this thread :roll:

Can you give me the 'Reader's Digest' version of what it said? I see no deletions in any topic at all.

I know I didn't delete any posts of Craig's. Maybe the forum glitched?
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby NinjaPuppy » 26 Mar 2010, 20:31

Craig has mentioned that he's had a few posts 'glitch' previously where key words have poofed (completely disappeared) from his posts. I've checked the 'Moderator Logs' and it shows no edits or deletions. This Forum will occasionally glitch as it's done it to me on many occasions. I can't seem to find a cause for this problem.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby Nostradamus » 26 Mar 2010, 20:37

There is a problem called script injection. It happens when the text people type in is interpreted as containing commands. The goal is to have the program only use user input in ways that it can't be interpreted to mean anything. Unfortunately, it is easy to cut corners in programming and not do that. I wonder if Craig has stumbled on one of these issues.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby NinjaPuppy » 26 Mar 2010, 20:47

Yeah, I had thought about that but I was leaning more toward the "Info Link" causing the problems. I've noticed some posts having a hard time with key words and "Info Link" but of course I'm usually more interested in reading the content rather than trying to see exactly what words or which members seem to be caught up in the problem.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby Nostradamus » 26 Mar 2010, 21:04

I just took a look at the page source and saw that the Info Links is not a part of the page, but rather added to the page after it has loaded. That must be done by the JavaScript.
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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby Craig Browning » 27 Mar 2010, 20:46

It's those damned Internet Gremlins... no one wants to believe me but I know they're real! :twisted:

The gist of my post was that someone needed to get his homophobia in check; when you are surrounded by persons with a high level of intellect/scholastic interest as well as things theatrical you're going to be pretty much surrounded by gay & bi-sexual individuals. If that makes on uncomfortable there are numerous reasons as to why that might be... I'd start with perspectives offered by Freud, Jung and maybe even Erikson. :roll:

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Re: Change of Mods required for free speech

Postby ciscop » 27 Mar 2010, 23:08

Craig Browning wrote:It's those damned Internet Gremlins... no one wants to believe me but I know they're real! :twisted:

The gist of my post was that someone needed to get his homophobia in check; when you are surrounded by persons with a high level of intellect/scholastic interest as well as things theatrical you're going to be pretty much surrounded by gay & bi-sexual individuals. If that makes on uncomfortable there are numerous reasons as to why that might be... I'd start with perspectives offered by Freud, Jung and maybe even Erikson. :roll:

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WHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT??????
you are a reader! how the hell you get that conclusion??
you are waaaaaay out of line

well.. on the same line i could go on and say ... when dealing with paranormal stuff.. you find out that most people are insane (h2 was in a mental assylum) and are a bunch of homophobes

which wouldnt be right for everybody here.. now would it?
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