In defense of the JREF Paranormal Challenge

[Jayhawker30]

Yeah, I guess I was just thinking "grand picture".

Personally, I wouldn't believe in something just because I hear that billions of others do. Granted, I might give the belief some consideration, but I won't simply hop onto a bandwagon without experiencing a real, objective example of that belief's genuineness.

Funny thing is though, more or less of these billions of believers have actually had their own examples. How many of them are on board merely out of hearsay, and how many actually have found something completely, inexplicably anomalous? Can we ever know?

[really?]

[craig weiler]

[really?]

[craig weiler]

Experiences are not belief. The logical fallacy arguments about beliefs are not valid here.

[Arouet]

[craig weiler]

Tricky for you maybe, but a few billion people seem to have figured it out.

[Arouet]

[craig weiler]

No. People make observations and draw conclusions. If you want to call that a belief, then everything is a belief.

[Arouet]

[craig weiler]

Huh?

[Arouet]

Conclusions based on observations are beliefs.

[craig weiler]

Uh, whatever.

[Arouet]

Now my turn: ?? This doesn't seem that contentious a point. Do you not think conclusions are beliefs?

[craig weiler]

You've gone off the deep end my friend. Fare thee well.