Yoga cures Cancer and Aids

[ProfWag]

I would love to hear opinions from as many people as possible who would like to chime in concerning this person:
http://forums.curesearch.org/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=631

Please notice the headline:
swami ramdev Yoga cure CANCER hiv AIDS 100% and other
140 diseases without medicines. miracle of yoga.

[NinjaPuppy]

IMO, it's a quack ad.

[Indigo Child]

Swami Ram Dev is far from a quack. He is one of the biggest authorities on Yoga
in the world and is a household name in India. He teaches Yoga for free in massive
camps in India, and around the world, and daily broadcasts to tens of millions of viewers.

You can watch free videos by him online giving classes on Yoga. He knows what he is talking about,
as hes trained in the tradition and learned from traditional masters.

Yoga is a superscience via which one can attain absolute mastery of the body and mind. Remember,
Prahlad Jani's case, he does not need to eat or drink. Prahlad Jani is one of countless yogis who have
have mastered the art of prana vidya(the science of prana)

[ProfWag]

[Indigo Child]

I would make sure my child gets the best treatment available. So I would consult
all avenues. Anything that works. This means I would consult modern and alternative
health cares. However, as it is clear that modern healthcare has no cure for cancer,
and the best outcome I would want for my child would be a cure, I would look at something
which offers that and combine it with all existing treatments.

I think it is very myopic of you to put all your faith only in allopathic medicine.

[Indigo Child]

Ayurveda and Cancer:

Vaidya Balendu Prakash says that the first state of cancer was incidentally treated by his father, the late Vaidya Chandra Prakash in 1960, under the guidance of his guru Maharaji who was a master of yoga and ayurveda. Though the late Vaidya had success, the sucess was inconsistent and wasn`t comprehended for many years. Later it was understood that batch variation in the medicine process was the main reason behind the inconsistency. After the death of his father in 1984, efforts were made to prepare the same medicines with proper documentation and these preparations were used on cancer patients. He used to spend more time in the preparation of medicines for he was convinced that the right type of preparation was the key to success.

To begin with, he started with the processing of mercury used in the formulation of `Valipani`. The entire processing of Shodhan (detoxification), Maran (grinding) and Jaran (heating) was done by him. The mercury so repared turned into white powder dust and `Valipani` was later on prepared adding the rest of the ingredients. This Valipani-86 was first used on Master Rajat Kalra, a forty-day old infant who had been diagnosed for acute leukemia at Moolchand Kharati Lal Hospital, New Delhi and at All India Instituyte of Medical Sciences, New Delhi. After receiving Vaidya Balendu`s ayurvedic treatment, the patient showed complete remission within forty days and he still leads a normal life.

Vaidya Balendu`s efforts paid off and the patient who became a landmark case in his life was Iqbal Bhan. He was diagnosed in 1982 for acute lymphoblastic leukemia at Royal Masdah Hospital, Sutton, London and was treated for three and a half years which included chemotherapy, radiation and autologous bone marrow transplantation. The patient relapsed within three months of transplantation and was given three weeks to survive. At this stage,Vaidya Balendu started his metal based ayurvedic transplantation which became a success story. Iqbal`s follow up bone marrow, blood report and general condition remain normal and he has now completed thirteen years of disease free survival.

In the same year another boy, Master Absar Khan was brought to Vaidya Balendu for treatment. He was diagnosed as the fourth reported case of acute megakaryoblastic leukemia at the Hospital for Sick Children, Great Armond Street, London. Prognosis was declared as poor and no treatment was rendered by conventional therapists at UK. The boy was treated with `Valipani` and showed complete recovery within a year.

The then Science and Technology Minister, Hon`ble K.R. Narayanan (currently President of India) heard these stories and tried to motivate Indian scientists and concerned Ministries. On his initiative, Prime Minister`s Office asked the Health Ministry to provide requisite support for further research. Unfortunately, no follow up actions were taken by these organizations. At this juncture, the Vaidya Chandra Prakash Cancer Research Foundation (VCPCRF) was set up by Vaidya Balendu in memory of his father. It was set up as a charitable trust to promote research on metal based formulations to develop the treatment and control of various forms of cancer, chronic inflammatory and immunological disorders.

In the last 15 years there were a number of cases who have been benefited by this approach. Such patients were declared as terminal with poor prognosis at various reputed hospitals in India and abroad. These metal based formulations have been found to be effective in the successful treatment of leukemia. In 1996 a pilot project was sanctioned by the Union Ministry of Health and Family Welfare to study the effects of metal based formulations in the treatment of Acute Pro-Myllotic Leukemia (APML) in 90 days. 15 patients were enroled in the study out of which 10 patients had shown a complete remission in peripheral blood.

This was the first time that the ayurvedic approach had achieved such an impressive success. This has also been confirmed by practitioners of the allopathic system of medicine. An ongoing effort is being made at RCC, Trivandrum, Kerela, India, where an indoor aurvedic unit has been set up with the help of the Kerela Government. Here, the treatment of cancer patients are being done with ayurvedic medicines and is being provided with proper documentation.

The finding of such studies was presented in the third conference of the International Conference of Oncology Network (ICON). Ayurvedic treatment has been acknowledged by the cancer experts and membership of ICON has been conferred for the first time to an ayurvedic practitioner in the regular group of cancer experts.

http://www.lifepositive.com/body/body-h ... -drugs.asp

[ProfWag]

[Nostradamus]

He's a quack. Any doofus that claims a panacea is a quack.

[really?]

[coolnwarm]

[ProfWag]

[Indigo Child]

[really?]

[Indigo Child]

What do you want references for? Many of the references I would give you are very specialised, and this
information would not be available online. You would have to go to libraries storing books on Indian philosophy,
the particular school you would be interested on reading up is known as Vaiseshika Darshana, meaning the school
of atomism by the sage Kanada in 600BCE.) This is the physical and empirical school of philosophy of the Vedic tradition,
and is the science behind Ayurveda. The principle doctrine of the Vaiseshika school is that the entire universe is made up
of a combination of atoms, which it defines as spherical points in space-time, whose combinations make up the empirical
evidence. They combine first as pairs, then as triplets under heat energy. They fundamental atoms are incredibly minute.
The first visible manifestation of the atomic aggregates are the motes one can see in a beam of light. The ideas of atoms
are pervasive throughout Indian philosophy, every tradition Buddhism, Hinduism and Jainism speaks of them, and they are
found mentioned in the oldest of texts. They are not theoretical entities either, they are positively asserted to exist.

I looked online to see if I could find any articles on this subject. I found these

http://www.rationalvedanta.net/node/127
http://www.rationalvedanta.net/node/135

http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0701/0701077.pdf
http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0702/0702012.pdf

Regarding the classification of microbes in Ayurveda. I found this:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=FGGX ... is&f=false

Yoga and Ayurveda are scientific systems. They are based on proper scientific theory(epistemology)
and empirical methods. There are literally thousands of texts written on them in the East, showing a constant development
of these sciences.

[Indigo Child]

Perhaps you need to refine your google, as well as research skills:

The earliest references to the concept of atoms date back to ancient India in the 6th century BCE,[8] appearing first in Jainism.[9] The Nyaya and Vaisheshika schools developed elaborate theories of how atoms combined into more complex objects.[10] In the West, the references to atoms emerged a century later from Leucippus, whose student, Democritus, systematized his views. In approximately 450 BCE, Democritus coined the term átomos (Greek: ἄτομος), which means "uncuttable" or "the smallest indivisible particle of matter". Although the Indian and Greek concepts of the atom were based purely on philosophy, modern science has retained the name coined by Democritus.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom

More links:

http://www.unitedindia.com/laws_of_atoms.htm

Since ancient times Indian philosophers believed that except Akash (ether), all other elements were physically palpable and hence comprised miniscule particles of matter. The last miniscule particle of matter which could not be subdivided further was termed Parmanu. The word Parmanu is a combination of Param, meaning beyond, and anu meaning atom. Thus the term Parmanu is suggestive of the possibility that, at least at an abstract level Indian philosophers in ancient times had conceived the possibility of splitting an atom which, as we know today, is the source of atomic energy. This Indian concept of the atom was developed independently and prior to the development of the idea in the Greco-Roman world. The first Indian philosopher who formulated ideas about the atom in a systematic manner was Kanada who lived in the 6th century B.C. Another Indian philosopher, Pakudha Katyayana who also lived in the 6th century B.C. and was a contemporary of Gautama Buddha, had also propounded ideas about the atomic constitution of the material world.


Sorry, it was not the Greeks. Atomism and Philosophy in general is much older than the Greeks.