Homeopathy just doesn't work - It's a failure

[Craig Browning]

Frankly, I don't think the money thing will change until they figure out how to make money from the results of the research!

Arouet - You left out the most important reason.... world domination. That's better than money.

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You are using the wrong avatar if you think this way, the more appropriate avatar for you would be a mouse with an over-sized head

[Nostradamus]

The experiment concerning faster than light travel should be explained a bit. A test was run and it looks like these particles traveled faster than light. This happens every other year or so. This experiment is not novel in that sense. In the past issues have been uncovered that showed how the data was being misinterpreted. For example, superluminal jets observed in space were shown not to be superluminal after all.

What makes the CERN issue so interesting is that CERN has observed this more than once. It is repeatable (just like the jets in space observations). Lots of issues have been discussed at CERN. No one there appears to have an explanation other than the particles in question are indeed superluminal. Instead of claiming success they have opened up the material to others. They are doing this knowing that for decades claims of superluminal have not panned out.

This thread is about homeopathy. Unlike the CERN experiment homeopathy is not repeatedly seen to exhibit healing effects. Like all of the other superluminal claims in the past homeopathy has been seen to fail.

If homeopathic practitioners and believers acted like CERN they would say something like this:

Even though there is no evidence whatsoever supporting homeopathy and it appears to be an ineffective treatment maybe there is a place where it can be applied, but all of the past efforts should be dropped and studies moved to other areas where something might be fruitful.

[Arouet]

Because homeopathy has no active ingredients and does absolutely nothing for you. Look at the title of this thread you are posting in.

[jacksdosen]

I knew it was a little old, but didn't apperceive the date. I've searched parapsychology references for years and still haven't begin one area we can say "it's true." (I was in fact aggravating to be funny. Sorry for the attempt.) But it's not taken out of ambience I don't believe. I accept an abreast assay over the years will appearance that parapsychology was ashore in date 1 for decades.

[Craig Browning]

I knew it was a little old, but didn't apperceive the date. I've searched parapsychology references for years and still haven't begin one area we can say "it's true." (I was in fact aggravating to be funny. Sorry for the attempt.) But it's not taken out of ambience I don't believe. I accept an abreast assay over the years will appearance that parapsychology was ashore in date 1 for decades.

Huh?

[Arka]

Here is a list of positve studies: There are a lot of them. I had to go to page 3 on a search for "positive homeopathic studies"
27. Reilly DT, Taylor MA, McSharry C, Aitchison T. Is homeopathy a placebo response? Controlled trial of
homeopathic potency, with pollen in hayfever as model. Lancet 1986; ii: 881–885.
28. Taylor MA, Reilly D, Llewellyn-Jones RH, McSharry C, Aitchison TC. Randomised controlled trial of
homoeopathy versus placebo in perennial allergic rhinitis with overview of four trial series. British
Medical Journal 2000; 321: 471–476.

Hi there,

I am new on this board, so bear with me.
On my forum there is the usual discussion on the (de)merits of homeopathy (load of tosh, if you ask me...) and someone has come up with above studies.
As one is published in the BMJ and one in the Lancet they cannot be so easily dismissed.
Does anyone know them or knows why they are not reliable?
The one in the Lancet is very old, but it is still The Lancet, so I would like to know more.

Can anyone help?

I am not medical doctor, so I cannot read competently a medical paper, reason why I am asking for help.

In case someone can read Italian, here is the discussion that originated this post:
http://www.autosvezzamento.it/forum/Thr ... 3#pid39113

Thanks in advance.

[linda lta]

Website with lots of news about alternative medicine and an article about the use of homeopathy in India.
http://wddty.com "What doctors don't tell you".
http://www.wddty.com/much-more-than-pla ... ancer.html

Excerpt from the text:

.... studies paid for by the US government are showing that homeopathy could be our best defence against cancer. Several homeopathic remedies are as effective as powerful chemotherapy, according to clinical trials, and thousands of cancer cases are being reversed by homeopathy alone.

The extraordinary success of homeopathy remedies—which are diluted hundreds of times—against the most dreaded of diseases is being demonstrated every day at several homeopathic clinics in Kolkata (Calcutta) in India.

[Arka]

Website with lots of news about alternative medicine and an article about the use of homeopathy in India.
http://wddty.com "What doctors don't tell you".
http://www.wddty.com/much-more-than-pla ... ancer.html

Excerpt from the text:

.... studies paid for by the US government are showing that homeopathy could be our best defence against cancer. Several homeopathic remedies are as effective as powerful chemotherapy, according to clinical trials, and thousands of cancer cases are being reversed by homeopathy alone.

The extraordinary success of homeopathy remedies—which are diluted hundreds of times—against the most dreaded of diseases is being demonstrated every day at several homeopathic clinics in Kolkata (Calcutta) in India.

If that is the case, why don't they put together a study and submit it?

[ProfWag]

If that is the case, why don't they put together a study and submit it?

ding, ding ding!!! You win the MDC prize! You must be able to read minds as that's exactly what I think! I don't know, why don't they submit a large scale study on it? I mean, there are people who are claiming that Homeopathic remedies cure AIDS, cancer, etc. I'd like to see two cases where that's the case. I'd also like to see two cases that even suggests homeopathy prevented AIDS or cancer, much less cured them (tough to do, but still...)

[really?]

Website with lots of news about alternative medicine and an article about the use of homeopathy in India.
http://wddty.com "What doctors don't tell you".
http://www.wddty.com/much-more-than-pla ... ancer.html

Excerpt from the text:

.... studies paid for by the US government are showing that homeopathy could be our best defence against cancer. Several homeopathic remedies are as effective as powerful chemotherapy, according to clinical trials, and thousands of cancer cases are being reversed by homeopathy alone.

The extraordinary success of homeopathy remedies—which are diluted hundreds of times—against the most dreaded of diseases is being demonstrated every day at several homeopathic clinics in Kolkata (Calcutta) in India.

If that is the case, why don't they put together a study and submit it?

I'm going to take a wild guess why they are unlikely to submit. It doesn't work.