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Re: How to prove Life after Death

Postby BizKey » 22 Feb 2012, 01:28

Craig Browning wrote:
BizKey wrote:Can the story of life after death be explained by he parable of Lazarus he beggar and the rich man? Both died right?


Let's stop leaning on the divine suppository please, it's not based on facts but legend & parables (most of which were borrowed from far older resources).

NDE's in nearly every culture follow the same two patterns; people that have lived an honest and selfless mode of life tend to have the white light and the sensation of overwhelming love that is sometimes inclusive of a cultural-religious iconography such as witnessing Angels, a Deity or Saint, etc. On the other side of the coin, people the "know" (be it consciously or subconsciously) that they live a selfish and self-destructive course in life tend to find themselves in utter darkness and racked with fear and sense of true anguish. Again, cultural-religious influences may be part of this encounter such as seeing some great evil entity, lake of fire or even the visions of Dante's little side-trip.

I believe that part of what one experiences during an NDE is very much a part of our consciousness/conscience; the theory being that these memories and associations surface as part of the dying process just as some speak of "their life flashing before their eyes" which seems to occur well before the dying process actually begins. BUT I also believe that a big side to the NDE process has a "higher meaning" -- for some of us it's a cosmic pat on the back and for others a dire warning. When we look at how the lives of those testifying about their own NDE and how the majority of them start walking a more devoted sense of "religious" life; especially so when it comes to those that have the darker encounters, the transformation being stark and near immediate.

As I've stated, it's going to be a long while before sufficient data is collected and proven acceptable by the bulk of the scientific and analytical community comes about, maybe another century or two given how hell-bent certain folks are when it comes to destroying any and all aspects of faith/religion and human spirituality in exchange for the cold pragmatism of Vulcan we seem to be running towards. :?


I totally agree with you but can we refer to the bible as a borrowed resource?
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Re: How to prove Life after Death

Postby Craig Browning » 22 Feb 2012, 23:21

Sorry Bizkey, but that book has cause far too much grief and hardship in the world and its patrons seem hell bent in shoving it up everyone's tukkis without having the willingness and dedication to live by what it actually stands for. As the old saying goes, history knows of only one true christian and he was a jew.
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Re: How to prove Life after Death

Postby Jayhawker30 » 29 Feb 2012, 17:58

Anyone know about the "God Helmet" experiments? Apparently they kind of take a shit on the NDE's validation of an afterlife.
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Re: How to prove Life after Death

Postby Craig Browning » 01 Mar 2012, 03:18

Jayhawker30 wrote:Anyone know about the "God Helmet" experiments? Apparently they kind of take a shit on the NDE's validation of an afterlife.


Actually they don't, they offer a possibility of something that might explain certain facets of the NDE scenario but they are not able to "take a shit" on the idea of an after life, they only give some understanding around the effects tied to the dying experience -- life flashing before your eyes, etc.

Thus far our technology can't launch a probe into the netherworld as a person passes over e.g. proving that existence is perpetual in some manner is probably not going to happen anytime in the next century or so; we'll probably have to prove out the 4th dimension before that's even remotely possible.
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