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Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby Kristine » 30 Jul 2009, 14:51

When my father was dying in the hospice, and I would ask him who all has come by to visit him, he often would say that someone who already passed away came to see him. Is anyone familiar with this or know anything about this sort of thing?
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby NinjaPuppy » 30 Jul 2009, 20:35

Hi Kristine,

I understand what you are talking about here. My dad was also going the hospice route at home during his last days. He didn't have occasional dead visitors as the days passed, as your dad did. Shortly before my dad died he had an open house. Allow me to explain the details of what I personally witnessed.

Dad was having what Hospice terms that last surge of energy right before death. Most get a good day or two where they almost look as if they might be improving compared to the previous weeks of being in an almost vegitative state.

I convinced my mom to make a doctor's appointment as her own health was slipping due to the fact that she had been dad's sole caretaker for months in the begining stages of dad's demise. Dad was rallying as they call it, and rather cooperative and social. Very out of character for him considering the progression of his situation.

He was in his room (bedroom door basically shut but cracked open about 2 inchs) and I could hear him moving around in bed. Mom had had a few bad experiences with him prior when he would attempt to get out of bed and fall so I was told to make sure he stayed put. I quietly looked through the opening in the door and his eyes were open and he was rubbing his hands on his sheets. He seemed awake and alert and that was something we had not seen for days. He began mumbling, almost as if he was singing to himself so I let him be. He looked peaceful and calm. He had a smile on his face and was staring at the wall in front of him. He began to speak clearly and went into a full blown one sided conversation as if he was greeting someone. I grabbed a pad and a pencil as his sudden urge to speak was unusual and sat on the floor outside of his room, listened quietly and wrote down as much as I could as it became a fast and furious conversation. He began with greeting everyone and then began the introductions.

He was busy introducing his 5 different visitors (who had all previously passed away) and I wrote down the names as he made proper introductions and gave a short bio to all on each one of them. He was very animated during this party, moving his head to address each individual where they stood and using his hands when explaining who was who in the room with him. He would point to each person during these introductions so everyone knew who he was speaking about. It was a very strange sight to witness. The man who could do nothing but lay motionless in a bed for days was now lifting his head, pointing, speaking clearly, intelligently, smiling etc.

Dad went down memory road from his earliest childhood memories with his brother Frank while explaining the complete circumstances to the others in the room. The kicker was when he seemed to answer questions from the other people there with him. That blew my mind. I kept writing down as much as I could so that perhaps some of what he was experiencing could be made sense of at some point. One side of a conversation with 5 separate people can be hard to understand without good notes. I did NOT want to try to enlighten my mom about this incident from memory. About one hour into his little party, dad broke out in song as his brother Frank played the violin. How do I know that Uncle Frank was playing the violin? That's easy, dad asked him to go get it and while he was looking for it, dad explained to everyone else in the room about Frank's music talents.

When the music and singing was over (dad's friend Ziggy had to get going) dad decided to ask them what it was like 'there' where they were now. Dad was obviously impressed and excited with their replies and asked more questions. Dad seemed to be very pleased with their collaborative 5 star rating of being dead. He told them that he would be seeing them soon but from his next response they obviously told him that they already knew that.

I was getting leg cramps from sitting on the floor so at that point I needed to stand up. I did so very quietly and dad turned his head toward the door and said, "Hey! Everybody look! There's a LIVE person over there! as he pointed directly at the door where I was standing. I then got serenaded with an old song and since Ziggy had to get going, they all said their good-byes and left. Dad continued singing at the top of his lungs and I went in the bedroom to talk to him. He claimed that he didn't remember a thing that had just happened or at least he wasn't going to talk about it. He would only keep asking where my mom was? I told him that she had a doc appointment and he was glad that she finally went to get checked as he knew she was beat with taking care of him.

Dad passed away peacefully in his sleep a few hours later.

This is taken directly from the Hospice information:

Vision-like Experiences
The person may speak or claim to have spoken to persons who have already died, or to see or have seen places not presently accessible or visible to you. This does not indicate an hallucination or a drug reaction. The person is beginning to detach from this life and is being prepared for the transition so it will not be frightening. Do not contradict, explain away, belittle or argue about what the person claims to have seen or heard. Just because you cannot see or hear it does not mean it is not real to your loved one. Affirm his or her experience. They are normal and common. If they frighten your loved one, explain that they are normal occurrences.


I would have to say it was one of the most interesting things I have ever experienced and I would not have passed up that opportunity for anything.
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby ciscop » 06 Aug 2009, 04:16

Uh! i like tanatology
i can tell you that my grand mother which was a deeply religious person told us many times that she saw my death gradfather weeks before her death
i also can tell you is a common occurrence and Elizabeth Kubler Ross (the creator of the 5 stages of dying: grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance) also reported that some of her patients often talk about seeing death relatives.
i think is a strange phenomenon
quite intriguing
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Aug 2009, 04:30

Yes, it certainly is. I figure that one day I should be able to prove many of the theories about life after death. The thing is, I have to die first. At least it gives me something to look forward to in the process of dying. I may not be able to give y'all any details but I'll have plenty of personal experience and a hard core opinion. I'll either get a definative, first hand account or all my wondering will be done for good.
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby ciscop » 06 Aug 2009, 04:39

the most important part of that experiment ninjapuppy
just enjoy your life first
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby The Professor » 08 Aug 2009, 12:10

I've seen this occur with several of my relatives before they passed. My mother cites it as them looking into the afterlife. I think she is right!
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby NinjaPuppy » 17 Aug 2009, 05:58

Eteponge has a wonderful blog entry on this topic: http://eteponge.blogspot.com/2009/07/ap ... sions.html
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby brett » 17 Aug 2009, 14:29

well i have to agree with you NP on the "good period " before death - with my wife who passed with liver and metastasised cancer this lasted nearly a month - she Had suffered from ill health a lot of her life - and was like a "new woman" for a few weeks after coming out of hospital after being diagnosed - bravely she refused to be "experimented " on and refused chemo which i am convinced would have finished her sooner

i was present when she passed of course , but she was too ill to do much and i witnessed no strange phenomena or her seeing anything at the time ** ( however she was virtually unable to communicate so that's not surprising ) - but i don't know she did not of course

speaking to staff afterwards at the hospice - her nurse told me that she had witnessed both what you describe and actually "seen" something departing the dead many times - the lady struck me as honest and down to earth - so i personally don't doubt your account

** i say at the time ( this ones for csicop - so he can stack some more "psychological" evidence up against me :lol: :lol: ) when i had recovered from the initial shock and the tears i shed that night - i noticed that 2 clocks had stopped in the house - BOTH at 16.59 GMT - the exact time she passed away :o - coincidence ?? may be - but both have refused to work since ( i have tried to make them ) and now hang where they where stopped seemingly for all time
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby ciscop » 17 Aug 2009, 16:41

hey brett
i am sorry for your lost

and it is an amazing thing what happened to the clocks
thats incredible. good stuff.
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby NinjaPuppy » 18 Aug 2009, 05:17

This site has some good reading about this topic. Personal experiences of nurses.

http://allnurses.com/general-nursing-di ... 08202.html
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby leo100 » 20 Aug 2009, 04:39

Kristine wrote:When my father was dying in the hospice, and I would ask him who all has come by to visit him, he often would say that someone who already passed away came to see him. Is anyone familiar with this or know anything about this sort of thing?


This sounds like a deathbed visitation, so yes i have heard of them
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby suzysangels » 09 Sep 2009, 08:50

I love all of these posts. Thank you for sharing. I'm a channel for the Angels and use the protection of the Angels to talk with the dead. They're alive all right. Often people see and talk with their already passed on friends and relatives in the dying process. It seems like a normal experience. What I think happens, and I have no scientific proof, is that as we die we prepare for our new life. Our new life is simply our life now without our body. Usually that's a good thing especially since nature designed the body to slough off like the dead roses. Notice, of course, that the roses grow right back next season. Nature has us set up so on a normal death, we're old and wrinkly and probably a little tired of life in a body that doesn't work as well as it used to. Whammo! Now you're in a life without a body, communicating once you're on the other side telepathically. So easy.

It's the resistance that creates the challenge. This is a great story!
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby quantumparanormal » 11 Sep 2009, 07:31

Kristine wrote:When my father was dying in the hospice, and I would ask him who all has come by to visit him, he often would say that someone who already passed away came to see him. Is anyone familiar with this or know anything about this sort of thing?


Kristine, Peter Fenwick is doing research on the type of phenomenon your father experienced. Please let me know if you'd like his email address, as he'd like to hear your story. Thanks.
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Re: Dying father talking to those who passed away.

Postby quantumparanormal » 11 Sep 2009, 07:34

ciscop wrote:Uh! i like tanatology
i can tell you that my grand mother which was a deeply religious person told us many times that she saw my death gradfather weeks before her death
i also can tell you is a common occurrence and Elizabeth Kubler Ross (the creator of the 5 stages of dying: grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance) also reported that some of her patients often talk about seeing death relatives.
i think is a strange phenomenon
quite intriguing


Yup, I have her latest book on DBVs--amazing research.
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