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This is a Ghost

Postby ghostie » 28 Jan 2011, 10:35

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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby Arouet » 28 Jan 2011, 10:43

No way am I clicking on that!
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby ghostie » 28 Jan 2011, 10:45

why? it's safe.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby Arouet » 28 Jan 2011, 11:00

Well, no offence, but you do a pretty good impression of a spamster! Better off coming in with a few substantive posts before joining a forum and posting in two threads with one line and a link.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby ghostie » 28 Jan 2011, 11:06

I am not a spamster at all..maybe i did jump in the deep end but i swear i am genuine
here to prove ghosts actually exist. And for the record i hate spamsters with every
bone in my body..
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby Arouet » 28 Jan 2011, 11:30

Allright, I clicked on your link and downloaded your little file. It seems to be virus free. But I don't know what hell it was supposed to be. I suspect your just a troll.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby NinjaPuppy » 28 Jan 2011, 20:26

Arouet - You are braver than I.

Ghostie - First of all welcome to the forum. The best way to get your information across on this forum is to either post your commentary in text form or upload whatever pics or video you'd like to YouTube. We've had some problems with infected links in the past so many of our members won't be flying over to check them out.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby ghostie » 29 Jan 2011, 00:29

Don't act stupid it's pretty obvious what is going on..but i will explain..on the recording i am asking for a word to be repeated and a word was repeated which means a pesonality heard what i had said and copied me..simples..no trick involved either.i post many of my other captures on another forum..will provide you with a link if you like..is the real truth,you are afraid?..I have been communicating with ghosts for 18 months now by way of a ghostbox and they are real..I constantly get clear replies..If you continue to avoid the proof or act stupid i will assume there is something wrong with you for i have never had such negative responses on other message boards.one day you will have to face it.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby Arouet » 29 Jan 2011, 02:32

Uhhh, ok.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby Craig Browning » 29 Jan 2011, 09:47

ghostie wrote:Don't act stupid it's pretty obvious what is going on..but i will explain..on the recording i am asking for a word to be repeated and a word was repeated which means a pesonality heard what i had said and copied me..simples..no trick involved either.i post many of my other captures on another forum..will provide you with a link if you like..is the real truth,you are afraid?..I have been communicating with ghosts for 18 months now by way of a ghostbox and they are real..I constantly get clear replies..If you continue to avoid the proof or act stupid i will assume there is something wrong with you for i have never had such negative responses on other message boards.one day you will have to face it.


You know, I saw Edgar Bergan do that same trick when I was a kid.

But then, that's all you are isn't it? A kid trying to get some attention.

If you think you really are hearing voices coming from some kind of box, tell me why you think it is so? This "Ghost Box" must have been constructed in some special way based on esoteric geometry or some kind of vision -- something? Or is it just something some yet known entity decided to move into? If so, why? Is it some kind of toy or special treasure that belonged to this entity? More important, are you keeping a valid record of the events tied to the box. . . a diary, video footage, eye witness accounts, some kind of insight as to the messages given to you by this entity. . . keeping in mind that a real disembodied soul wouldn't just echo the same word you've just uttered, they would actually convey information.

I'm not busting on you in this case, just trying to get you to understand that (as my first two lines suggest) you're the only one here being "stupid" and the reason I say that comes in my previous paragraph -- you are not offering any kind of validation tied to your claim.

I have an exceptional background when it comes to the metaphysical side of things as well as the world of fakery; I'm not the typical "skeptic" as they tend to be in today's world, but more of a down to earth sort of believer. That is to say, I ask questions rather than accepting any sort of manifestation at face value; it's nothing elaborate or overly critical, just some simple logic. Amazingly very, very little in way of the assumed paranormal proves to be "real" and that is especially so when it comes to "ghosts" and speaking with the dead.

ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE TO CONSIDER is one shared by both, Donald Michael Kraig and P.I. Bonewits when it comes to invisible entities such as you claim to be interacting with. You see, there is a reason the old one's called them "imps" and why so much material on the Fey and Sprites WARNS US that they are trouble-makers. One of their favorite past-times is to screw with humans that think they are channeling some kind of entity. Kraig & Bonewits both call these things "little Nasties" and with good reason. So maybe, if you want to cling to your belief you'll look up the books written by these two and actually LEARN a little something about that world before calling everyone else "Stupid". Some of us actually know more about such things than you'll ever learn, given the attitude you're projecting. ;)
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby caniswalensis » 29 Jan 2011, 12:19

Man, this is a rough thread.

Why all the hostillity people? Does everything have to be an argument?

More on topic, a "ghost box" is a hacked radio scanner that scans up & down the frequencies without stopping. The basic idea is that a spirit or ghost or other entity can then manipulate the scanner or radio waves to construct messeges out of snippets of radio broadcasts.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby Arouet » 29 Jan 2011, 12:49

Ok, I've never heard of these ghostboxes before. Not impressed, but perhaps I was a bit snippy. Been stressed lately....
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby NinjaPuppy » 29 Jan 2011, 17:42

So what are we talking about here people? A ghost box? A Frank's box? Or all of the above? I know they are pretty much the same thing but I watch enough of the different ghost TV shows to also know that depending on what they call it, the clarity of the word can vary.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby caniswalensis » 29 Jan 2011, 23:02

My understanding is that a ghost box and a Frank's box is the same thing. There may be other uses for the term ghost box that I do not know about.

There is also a device called an "ovilus" that is somewhat different. An ovilus has a pre-loaded vocabulary of words and a built in EMF meter. Each word is assigned to a specific EMF value. When it senses fluctuations in EMF, it plays the associated word(s).

People who use an ovilus are working on the assumption that ghost or spirits can manipulate an EMF to produce the word(s) they wish to.

I think it is important to remember that both of these devices can function as word randomizers with no intervention from paranormal entities. That means that the only way to eliminate natural explanations for seemingly meaningful messages is to have very tightly controlled protocols on how the experiment is conducted.
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Re: This is a Ghost

Postby NinjaPuppy » 30 Jan 2011, 07:59

caniswalensis wrote:I think it is important to remember that both of these devices can function as word randomizers with no intervention from paranormal entities. That means that the only way to eliminate natural explanations for seemingly meaningful messages is to have very tightly controlled protocols on how the experiment is conducted.

Canis, you said a mouthful. I have wondered what it would be like to play with one of these things. I have a mel meter and of course the requisite cheapo digital recorder for those class 'f' EVPs. You know... the sounds that don't even rate a class 'c' EVP because they're all pretty much garble.

I was able to get some answers about poor EVPs by playing with the digital recorder. The slightest movement of your fingers on the thing will create those bone chilling ghost sounds as will wearing nylon, courderoy and many polyesters. Don't forget zippers, snaps, certain types of shoes etc. They will all create sounds that can be picked up on a digital recorder. With enough imagination you can hear just about anything you want to from heavy thighs and a new pair of courderoy pants. If baby's got back, you've got some good EVPs.

The mel meter needed a lot of experimentation before I was able to understand what NOT to do with it. If handled incorrectly you can also get off the wall readings for no particular reason. Now I just need to figure out what I should do with it to prove anything other than my microwave needs to be updated by a newer, more sealed version.

It is the controlled protocols that will determine if these things have any value in the spirit realm.
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