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SCEPCOP Forum • Locked Sagan Thread : PseudoSkeptic Fallacies - Page 10
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Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 04:21
by ProfWag

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 04:42
by Nostradamus
Notice that Sagan tried 3 times. He didn't die on the first try. He had a form of the disease which is nearly impossible to deal with and yet he was strong enough to try 3 times.

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 04:45
by Nostradamus
A long time ago medicine learned that case studies are junk. The difference between individuals in a population is amazing. That is why case studies were abandoned long ago. To point to one example of a treatment and make a claim about the treatments is a long abandoned practice. It's considered a naive practice.

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 05:40
by Kevin Kane
Except the case study happens to be a famous skeptic and beloved scientist who wanted to live, who spent a lot of money on his treatments, who believed in, and preached faith in science and medicine. What would he say today? What would he preach today if he were alive?

And while this is a case study, the group studies of the consequences of chemo and radiation therapy reflect similar patterns of lethal consequences. I'll be posting some eventually.

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 05:51
by Nostradamus

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 06:39
by Kevin Kane
Context, ND, is like a map of reality. You are at a board that analyzes and criticizes the nonsense of skeptics. You are in a thread about Carl Sagan. We are discussing Carl's public medical history and his faith and advocacy in the treatments .. which caused his death.

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 10:35
by Nostradamus
Actually you have no evidence about the cause of death. You have Kevin nonsense-drivel for the most part.

So where are the studies you were going to post?

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 12:55
by Kevin Kane
Carl Sagan died?

Prove it!

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 13:07
by Nostradamus

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 25 Mar 2010, 03:47
by highflyertoo
I always thought Carl was about to meet the Martians sometime soon.

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 25 Mar 2010, 09:24
by Kevin Kane
Maybe Carl is still alive. Has anyone checked his coffin? He could be like Schrodinger's cat. With the money he paid for his treatments, he could have been buried on Mars.

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 25 Mar 2010, 09:29
by Nostradamus
Are you going to post some studies?

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 25 Mar 2010, 10:56
by Kevin Kane
I was told not to feed the trolls.

http://disc.420chan.org/sagan/src/1268808701324.jpg

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 25 Mar 2010, 11:23
by Nostradamus

Re: Locked Sagan Thread

PostPosted: 25 Mar 2010, 11:37
by highflyertoo