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Poll: Should Skeptics be allowed in this forum?

Discuss PseudoSkeptics and their Fallacies. Share strategies for debating them.

Should Skeptics be allowed in this forum?

Yes
28
62%
Yes but only limit them to the Debating Skeptics board
10
22%
No, it would only bring negative energy and ultimately do no good, as they will not listen
7
16%
 
Total votes : 45

Re: Poll: Should Skeptics be allowed in this forum?

Postby Schrodinger's Cat » 26 Mar 2014, 23:22

Of course Skeptics should be 'allowed in'. What they should not be allowed is to be abusive, rude, sneering or just generally obnoxious. I've no problem with any Skeptic saying ' I don't believe a word of this...show me proof', but I do object to people who think that just casually dismissing things as a foregone conclusion is science.

Proper science is about investigating things. It is not about deciding in advance that this or that is 'impossible' but about looking at the evidence. Some claims DO have little or no evidence, and for those one should be highly doubtful. But what I cannot stand is those who just come onto forums with an a priori mentality that 'its all rubbish...the whole lot of it' and are not even prepared to listen to or consider any counter argument.
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Re: Poll: Should Skeptics be allowed in this forum?

Postby Schrodinger's Cat » 27 Mar 2014, 04:12

justintime wrote:
Schrodinger's Cat wrote:Of course Skeptics should be 'allowed in'. What they should not be allowed is to be abusive, rude, sneering or just generally obnoxious. I've no problem with any Skeptic saying ' I don't believe a word of this...show me proof', but I do object to people who think that just casually dismissing things as a foregone conclusion is science.

Proper science is about investigating things. It is not about deciding in advance that this or that is 'impossible' but about looking at the evidence. Some claims DO have little or no evidence, and for those one should be highly doubtful. But what I cannot stand is those who just come onto forums with an a priori mentality that 'its all rubbish...the whole lot of it' and are not even prepared to listen to or consider any counter argument.

You have a very dim view of skeptics and your conditional acceptance of them betrays a reservation that nothing good can come out of their participation. But you are in good company. Skeptics have been raging on the Internet unloading their doubts, uncertainty and questioning even generally accepted conclusions. This is not new, it actually is the definition of a skeptic.
I don't know if you will find the skeptics here any less obnoxious than on other skeptic forums. But you will find a balance of opinions expressing their demise.
It is true skeptics are a dismissive lot. They are after all a disparate group of insecure individuals with a rather under developed defence mechanism. I am told they even struggle with literary metaphors.
But you are right they tend to be evidence seekers and if you provide skeptics with enough facts, they might eventually form an opinion.
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I wouldn't call myself a 'believer' in any paranormal phenomenon. I have doubts about all of them. BUT...there are some ( for example UFOs ) for which the evidence is intriguing and demands more than just a casual dismissal. When, for example, over 200 witnesses independently see a huge triangular shaped craft over Phoenix...I think it is bordering on criminal scientific misconduct for scientists to just dismiss this out of hand. Many skeptics are oblivious to the extent of evidence, often focussing on outright dismissing the more easily explained cases and then presenting them as if they represented every case. And yet, even Project Blue Book found that a percentage of cases had no perceivable conventional explanation. Sure, there's no conclusive evidence for UFO/ET visitations...but there most certainly is more than enough evidence to warrant proper scientific investigation.
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