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Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

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Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby Gleinile » 16 Mar 2013, 11:30

Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy on every situation in which the genuineness of someone is?
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby really? » 18 Mar 2013, 00:07

Can you show examples?
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 18 Mar 2013, 21:04

Gleinile wrote:Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy on every situation in which the genuineness of someone is?

Welcome to the forum!

I've never heard of this "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Needless to say that I checked the Wikipedia definition and you are spot on with your question.

As for examples, this forum is FULL of examples and if Really? would like an example, he can dig around himself.
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby really? » 18 Mar 2013, 22:07

I'm not aware of any skeptics here using it. My impression was the op was insinuating that skeptics in general use the fallacy.

It's polite to present examples when such an assertion is claimed. That allows everyone to see for themselves whether or not the the assertion is true. If not this thread won't move any further especially if the poster doesn't return.
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 19 Mar 2013, 06:52

really? wrote:I'm not aware of any skeptics here using it. My impression was the op was insinuating that skeptics in general use the fallacy.

It's polite to present examples when such an assertion is claimed. That allows everyone to see for themselves whether or not the the assertion is true. If not this thread won't move any further especially if the poster doesn't return.

It's also polite to welcome a newbie.

As for skeptics here using it, I think that if I had the time, I'd find one or two of these sort of references. I don't think that the OP was accusing anyone here of doing anything in particular, he was probably just trying to make on topic conversation to test the waters.
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 20 Mar 2013, 18:42

hmm, I note the 'Fallacies' button and page above, but it would be interesting to blend in some of those classic identified philosophical and epistemological fallacies into the discussion to prove how age old they are and how they are still being used.

Like the classic ProfWag line, 'as soon as I saw x on that website, I refused to read any further'... that one must have a name...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby Arouet » 20 Mar 2013, 19:38

SydneyPSIder wrote:Like the classic ProfWag line, 'as soon as I saw x on that website, I refused to read any further'... that one must have a name...


That's not a logical fallacy.
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby Arouet » 21 Mar 2013, 00:23

The OP can be interpreted a couple of ways since it really isn't a complete sentence. If OP comes back maybe they can clarify.
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 21 Mar 2013, 02:47

Arouet wrote:
SydneyPSIder wrote:Like the classic ProfWag line, 'as soon as I saw x on that website, I refused to read any further'... that one must have a name...


That's not a logical fallacy.

So then are you saying that ProfWag is not logical? :o
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby Arouet » 21 Mar 2013, 05:07

Actually, I was saying the opposite - he DIDN'T make a logical fallacy there! ;)
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 24 Mar 2013, 11:46

Arouet wrote:
SydneyPSIder wrote:Like the classic ProfWag line, 'as soon as I saw x on that website, I refused to read any further'... that one must have a name...


That's not a logical fallacy.

Yes it is.
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby really? » 24 Mar 2013, 20:21

SydneyPSIder wrote:Like the classic ProfWag line, 'as soon as I saw x on that website, I refused to read any further'... that one must have a name...


Arouet wrote:That's not a logical fallacy.

SydneyPSIder wrote:Yes it is.


Name the fallacy then.
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 24 Mar 2013, 20:28

really? wrote:
SydneyPSIder wrote:Like the classic ProfWag line, 'as soon as I saw x on that website, I refused to read any further'... that one must have a name...


Arouet wrote:That's not a logical fallacy.

SydneyPSIder wrote:Yes it is.


Name the fallacy then.

You want me to coin a name for his logical fallacy?
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby really? » 24 Mar 2013, 23:29

SydneyPSIder wrote:Like the classic ProfWag line, 'as soon as I saw x on that website, I refused to read any further'... that one must have a name...


Arouet wrote:That's not a logical fallacy.

SydneyPSIder wrote:Yes it is.


really? wrote:Name the fallacy then.

SydneyPSIder wrote:You want me to coin a name for his logical fallacy?


Sure, go ahead
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Re: Why do skeptics cite the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 25 Mar 2013, 00:14

I'd just call it "waggling".
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