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What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright lights?

Postby Scepcop » 17 Apr 2012, 20:22

I hope this question doesn't make me sound like a nerd, but I've never understood something. What is the appeal of nightclubs? I'm talking about places with darkness, disco lights and loud deafening music. What is so fun about that kind of environment? What's the appeal? How is it relaxing or pleasurable? I don't get it. Can someone explain?

First, the loud deafening noise in such places makes it hard to hear other people talking, so how can you have a conversation? It's funny how movies portray nightclubs and discos as places where people can talk and hear each other. lol

Second, the environment is dark with artificial disco lights spinning around. How is that fun, relaxing or pleasurable? It seems like an annoying experience with overstimulation - and very intrusive to one's "inner world". Plus the dark environment makes it hard to see people clearly. And the bright lights and loud music make it hard to think clearly, which subdues your awareness and consciousness.

How is this supposed to be a positive, fun, or relaxing experience? I don't understand the logic in it.

Also, how is drinking alcohol pleasurable? It just makes me feel dizzy, buzzed and lightheaded. I don't get how that is pleasurable enough to be addicting. Can someone explain this logically?

Apparently, I don't follow the "logic" of this world and am alien to it. Why?
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby ProfWag » 17 Apr 2012, 20:48

Simple really...it's where people go who want to have sex but don't want to pay for a prostitute. People look better in the dark, their inhibitions go down when drinking, and who the hell cares what the person of the opposite sex is saying anyway since they are really only there for one thing. (I'm speaking generally, of course. I'm sure some go who don't want sex. Maybe. Someone.)
I know for me when I was going clubbing, I never went to bed with an ugly woman, but I sure woke up next to a lot of 'em! :oops:
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby NinjaPuppy » 19 Apr 2012, 04:27

I'd say that ProfWag pretty much hit that nail on the head. While night clubs are not particularly great places for the reasons that SCEPCOP mentions above, they are a great place to observe people and their attempt to find Mr. Right or Mr. Right Now. :lol:
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby Twain Shakespeare » 20 Apr 2012, 08:45

I empathize with your every complaint, SCECOP. However, ProfWag, even my inner Freudian knows better than to think I'll get laid if I go to a bar.

I hate the noise, hate the gloom. I also dislike alcohol. I love music, tho. Volume is not a problem if I like what is played, and a large percentage of bars I have gone to, Prof, I have gone to in order to hear a band.

Can't say I am a nerd, SCECOP, but I admit to being faggot and a geek of the older grosser sort, and a freak, Beat, and borderline dirty Hippie who is at ill at ease with sports work and women as Maynard G Crebs. My inner Freudian will also freely admit that a large number of times I have gone to bars for other purposes than music, the bars still featured exotic dancing, and most of the times I had sex outside of marriage did involve bars. An equally large number of visits to bars were social politeness, and a "nerdish" effort to, if not fit it, at least observe the behavior of the primates to see if I can simulate it as art.

In such circs, alcohol shuts off my chattering monkey mind. "Twain" no longer feels as if he is being hit on the head with a hammer, my Shakespearean monkey mind chatters without let, hindrance or worry about being understood, the ape's feet would even dance, if I wasn't descended from four generations of tee-totaling baptists with no sense of rhythm, and I am surrounded by Jungian archetypes of the hunters and maidens courting before a roaring fire to the wild beat of drums. "Then the world seems none too bad, and I myself a sterling lad."
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby Scepcop » 24 Apr 2012, 09:01

ProfWag wrote:Simple really...it's where people go who want to have sex but don't want to pay for a prostitute. People look better in the dark, their inhibitions go down when drinking, and who the hell cares what the person of the opposite sex is saying anyway since they are really only there for one thing. (I'm speaking generally, of course. I'm sure some go who don't want sex. Maybe. Someone.)
I know for me when I was going clubbing, I never went to bed with an ugly woman, but I sure woke up next to a lot of 'em! :oops:


How can that be? Most people who go there hang in groups and cliques, and don't talk to strangers. If they were there to meet others, they would talk to new people more. Most people don't hook up there, only a few do if they dance well or shine in that environment or look attractive. To go home disappointed every night would discourage me from going again. The girls I've seen at those places seem to just hang in groups and don't look like they want to meet anyone.

A poster in my other forum summed it up well:

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... hp?t=13489

If you're at a club having fun with a group of people you can connect with then you can have a lot of fun just losing yourself in the music and drink. I've been to clubs where the music (usually trance) is so good and the people so into it that you feel a deep sense of connection with the people around you in the dance floor, like a shared ecstatic spiritual experience, much like how tribal societies dance round the fire - it's a spiritual experience of bonding and pleasure.

The problem with a lot of clubs particularly in Western countries is that the social environments are just so pretentious, cliquish, with people trying to see and be seen, showing of their dance moves or filled with guys fruitlessly trying to pick up arrogant girls, often unsuccessfully. It's the people that make the club. In that kind of environment, clubbing just becomes pointless and a waste of money.
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby ProfWag » 24 Apr 2012, 21:02

Scepcop wrote:How can that be? Most people who go there hang in groups and cliques, and don't talk to strangers. If they were there to meet others, they would talk to new people more. Most people don't hook up there, only a few do if they dance well or shine in that environment or look attractive. To go home disappointed every night would discourage me from going again. The girls I've seen at those places seem to just hang in groups and don't look like they want to meet anyone.


Your poster in the other forum said this: "...or filled with guys fruitlessly trying to pick up arrogant girls,..." Which, if you re-read my post, is pretty much what I said. I've come to the realization that you simply want to disagree with me regardless of the subject Winston. I tried to give you an honest answer to your question. Actually, your poster gives an oxymoron. If a group of people are really "cliquish," then they don't care if they are there to "see or be seen" as they are only there for the group rather than hoping for something "better." When I was clubbing, I don't believe I ever went to a club by myself, but that doesn't mean that everyone in my group wasn't trying to get 'em some, even if we didn't do a lot of talking. If I wanted to talk to a girl, I'd go to a lounge. If I wanted to pick someone up, I went to a club. Now, to counter that, looking back I realize that if I wanted to pick up a girl, I should have gone to the grocery or laundry mat, but what can I say, we all live and learn.
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby Twain Shakespeare » 25 Apr 2012, 06:54

Being an actor, I do things to learn how they are done. The only "attraction" I have personally experienced from going to "discotechs", aside from the humiliation of sex, is "much like how tribal societies dance round the fire - it's a spiritual experience of bonding and pleasure" that I also referred to, and I have experienced, even in Discotech's with garage bands plaing Led Zepplin badly. It ain't complete Zen transcedance, but it is a divine blessing from the Titanic power Al Kohol, and one should be thankful for the blessing. A lot of idiotic proles live for it. Nerds have a hard time bonding with the primate band, unless they become shamans. Otherwise, SCECOP, you and I are the outsiders in a disco, who validate the rest as a primate bond. We are the scape goats in an Erotic rite, cast into the outer darness, prey to incubi, and will probably go blind from masurbation. Is it any wonder we hate it?

Prof, I LOVE the interplay between you and SCECOP so much that sometimes I suspect you two are employed by different branches of the CIA, and that this whole forum is a CIA fount of disinfo. Ninja, Craig, and I, plus others, appear to be dupes or fellow travelers of one army of the Night or another. And Prof, thanks for the tips on picking upgirls.
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby ProfWag » 26 Apr 2012, 21:43

Twain Shakespeare wrote: And Prof, thanks for the tips on picking upgirls.

No problem. An "accidental" shopping cart crash works wonders sometimes! :-)
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby NinjaPuppy » 29 Apr 2012, 18:03

Twain Shakespeare wrote:Prof, I LOVE the interplay between you and SCECOP so much that sometimes I suspect you two are employed by different branches of the CIA, and that this whole forum is a CIA fount of disinfo. Ninja, Craig, and I, plus others, appear to be dupes or fellow travelers of one army of the Night or another. And Prof, thanks for the tips on picking upgirls.

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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby KimberlyHardacre » 05 Aug 2012, 16:23

It's all about the state in which we/you are, that is what selects what type of music you would wanna listen to, and in what way you wanna hear it :)
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby Scepcop » 31 Dec 2012, 16:12

Have you all noticed that lower IQ people tend to have more fun in clubs than higher IQ people? Why is that?

Have you noticed that lower IQ people also seem to fit in better in large groups than higher IQ people do. Why is that?

Have you noticed that higher IQ people can stand longer periods of being alone than lower IQ people can? Why is that?

Have you noticed that lower IQ people also have a higher tolerance for noise than higher IQ people do, as German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer mentioned in his essay "On Noise". Why is that?

http://www.noisehelp.com/schopenhauer-quotes.html

Quotes about Noise by Arthur Schopenhauer

Quotes are from the essay "On Noise" except where noted.
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I have long held the opinion that the amount of noise that anyone can bear undisturbed stands in inverse proportion to his mental capacity and may therefore be regarded as a pretty fair measure of it.

~ The World as Will and Representation (1819)

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The superabundant display of vitality, which takes the form of knocking, hammering, and tumbling things about, has proved a daily torment to me all my life long.

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Noise is a torture to intellectual people.

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Noise is the most impertinent of all forms of interruption. It is not only an interruption, but also a disruption of thought.

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Noisy interruption is a hindrance to concentration. That is why distinguished minds have always shown such an extreme dislike to disturbance in any form, as something that breaks in upon and distracts their thoughts. Above all have they been averse to that violent interruption that comes from noise.

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Occasionally it happens that some slight but constant noise continues to bother and distract me for a time before I become distinctly conscious of it. All I feel is a steady increase in the labor of thinking — just as though I were trying to walk with a weight on my foot.

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The general toleration of unnecessary noise — the slamming of doors, for instance, a very unmannerly and ill-bred thing — is direct evidence that the prevailing habit of mind is dullness and lack of thought.

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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby The23rdman » 31 Dec 2012, 19:22

Clubbing has changed. When I was clubbing in the 90's there was a big MDMA scene and the atmosphere and vibe was always one about togetherness, dancing and making friends. The music became you and elevated conciousness. The idea that only thick people enjoyed that is utterly and completely ludicrous. I met people from all walks of life who were there to escape the shackles of conformity and stifling social norms.

This vibe all changed when cocaine became affordable though. No drug kills a sense of community so readily.
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby pwil » 30 Dec 2013, 12:55

no thanks. I'll pass on that
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby SydneyPSIder » 30 Dec 2013, 22:39

There's a core dimension of introversion/extraversion that tends to predict how much you'll like clubbing and the sensory experience -- lights, noise, etc. Ref Hans Eysenck.
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Re: What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, bright light

Postby Emily » 18 Jun 2014, 07:25

I suppose from a sensory perception perspective, people may enjoy dark, strobe-lit, loud music places because they create an adrenaline feedback loop as well as the illusion of anonymity. Throw in some alcohol to increase self-esteem… *shrug*
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