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Is life just a deep dream?

Postby Scepcop » 17 Dec 2011, 00:40

Interesting thoughts.

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Cut the Crap…The Dream Theory
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By Albert Russell

When I was asked to present a topic, I felt like a person in the middle of a hot and dry desert who suddenly heard the sound of water, and found hope of reaching the water.

I wanted to talk about Arthur Schopenhauer’s book “On the suffering of the world”, but then I thought it might be better to talk about some fundamental questions: “Who am I?”, “Where am I coming from?”, “Where am I going to?’’ and “Do I really exist?”

I have been thinking about the answers to these questions for a long time. As a result, I have come to develop a theory which provides me with satisfactory answers. The theory is that the whole universe is nothing more than a deep dream. And time and space are the factors which make this dream deeper, making it easier to believe it as reality. Since an object has both time and space dimensions, then it will experience past, present and future in one direction. If the same object exists in a realm in which there is no time and space, then there is no past, present and future concerning the object. In other words that object knows about past, present and future at the same moment.

If we assume that this world we live in is a dream containing time and space dimensions, and the waking world is the world with no time and space dimensions, then when we wake up those questions will become meaningless, since there is no past, present and future in the waking world. These questions only belong to the dreaming world.

But this theory leads me to some other questions. “Regarding this theory, do the definitions of religion, science and philosophy change from the dreaming realm to the waking one?”, “Are we free in this dreaming world?”, “Did we choose to be a part of this dream?”

When I read the book “On the suffering of the world” by Schopenhauer, I came to believe even more firmly in my dreaming theory, as I felt a deep connection between my ideas and his. Here is a passage from his book:

“Life can be regarded as a dream and death as the awakening from it: but it must be remembered that the personality, the individual, belongs to the dreaming and not to the awakened consciousness, which is why death appears to the individual as annihilation. In any event, death is not, from this point of view, to be considered a transition to a state completely new and foreign to us, but rather a return to one originally our own from which life has been only a brief absence.”
“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Re: Is life just a deep dream?

Postby Freethinker84 » 20 Dec 2011, 19:56

Wow. I have had those exact same thoughts. This is the first time I've seen another person discussing it.
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Re: Is life just a deep dream?

Postby Craig Browning » 21 Dec 2011, 03:40

It's actually a very ancient concept and can be loosely seen in certain Buddhist and Hindu teachings as well as those of various indigenous people around the globe. There's even a short story that was popular in the mid-70s about some guy having a day-dream. The punch-line being at the end of the story when you realize it's "God" that's doing the dreaming. . .
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Re: Is life just a deep dream?

Postby Craig Browning » 04 Jan 2012, 02:16

bannexy wrote:Career in psychology. What courses do i take in college to switch to universality? I am currently in high school. I am interested in pursing a career in psychology. I can only get into college, because i have only taken college courses. The thing is can i still become a psychologist, if i was to choose college and upgrade to university. Anyway is there a college i can speak to that offers a program in psychology.


My suggestion, given the question and confused structure there of, would be to go back to high school first but pay attention this time. . . you may even want to watch a bit more Tv in that you'll find hundreds of blatant answers to this question -- College is what happens at Universities, most 5th graders already know this. Too, introduction to Psychology is usually an elective in the majority of U.S. High Schools that I know of as is Sociology which is an important secondary study into the human animal.
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Re: Is life just a deep dream?

Postby Arouet » 04 Jan 2012, 02:37

Putting aside what is obviously a spammer , Craig, college = university is a US thing. In Ontario we have colleges and universities. The colleges are more technically oriented and things like nursing, paralegals, as well. Certain courses you choose can limit your track to college or university, depending on if you do the right prerequisites.
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Re: Is life just a deep dream?

Postby ProfWag » 04 Jan 2012, 03:04

Arouet wrote:Putting aside what is obviously a spammer , Craig, college = university is a US thing. In Ontario we have colleges and universities. The colleges are more technically oriented and things like nursing, paralegals, as well. Certain courses you choose can limit your track to college or university, depending on if you do the right prerequisites.

To be more specific with college/university, although there is nothing in stone and exceptions to the rule, normally a college refers to anything from a 2-year community college to the major universities. Also, a "college" is usually more specific to one area of study whereas a university is usually a collection of colleges. For example, if you look at the amazing and wonderful University of Indiana (shameless plug), you'll find a "college" of Liberal Arts, a "college" of Business, a "college" of psychology, and so forth. Back in the day, a College" couldn't offer a Ph.D program, though this has changed through the years.
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Re: Is life just a deep dream?

Postby Craig Browning » 04 Jan 2012, 21:10

I've never thought about it that way but can kind of make sense of it given my ties to the University of California and the different campus settings of that same institution I've taken classes at on various topics; same parental blanket but different physical aspect thereof.

It's a clarification I've never heard of before, then again the UK seems to bastardize the English language and how we normal folk understand it :roll:
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Re: Is life just a deep dream?

Postby angelitaB » 23 Apr 2012, 12:46

No. Life is what God had given us to enjoy. Its not a dream.
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Re: Is life just a deep dream?

Postby Craig Browning » 23 Apr 2012, 23:23

angelitaB wrote:No. Life is what God had given us to enjoy. Its not a dream.


Which God?

I can assure you, the arrogant S.O.B. talked about in the Bible is a Teamster and always asleep on the job.
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