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Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Scepcop » 31 Aug 2011, 18:35

“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Craig Browning » 01 Sep 2011, 01:38

So "Scientists" are confirming what Psychics have said and generally claimed for centuries? :o

Don't let the skeptics know, they'll not know what to do with themselves once word of this gets out :twisted:
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Arouet » 01 Sep 2011, 02:17

My gut instinct tells me that Craig didn't really read the article and the SCEPCOP won't bother coming back to the thread anyway as he watches his forum die.

(how'd I do?)
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby ProfWag » 01 Sep 2011, 04:55

Arouet wrote:My gut instinct tells me that Craig didn't really read the article and the SCEPCOP won't bother coming back to the thread anyway as he watches his forum die.

(how'd I do?)

I'm with Arouet on this gut instinct as well.
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Craig Browning » 01 Sep 2011, 22:26

Arouet wrote:My gut instinct tells me that Craig didn't really read the article and the SCEPCOP won't bother coming back to the thread anyway as he watches his forum die.

(how'd I do?)


I don't know about what Winston will do, but I have read the article and amazingly, it says more or less what I've said many times on this and other forums about how it all works. . . oddly enough, it mirrors what's been taught in various "mystic orders" for centuries. So let's not gloat too much on that front.
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Arouet » 02 Sep 2011, 07:27

I don't know what the mystics say, but the scope of the experiment was fairly narrow. The headline was a little optimistic.
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Scepcop » 02 Sep 2011, 12:47

Arouet wrote:My gut instinct tells me that Craig didn't really read the article and the SCEPCOP won't bother coming back to the thread anyway as he watches his forum die.

(how'd I do?)


Well I just came back to the thread, so you did terrible. :)

Maybe you should try reading the article first.
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Arouet » 02 Sep 2011, 13:10

? I read the article. Somewhat interesting I guess, though I'm a little suspicious of the methodology (rating how one feels about an object?). Anyhow, I'm not sure what you think the significance of it is. Why do you think its interesting?
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Craig Browning » 02 Sep 2011, 22:47

:lol: "How one "feels" about an item". . .

Well, skeptics don't tend to have feelings, do they? :twisted:

Granted, that's a two-sided statement in that it is a bit of a jab as well as a truth; Rationally Minded people are less sensitive when it comes to what their body "tells" them; their natural mode centers on listing to the "logic" passing through their mind -- carnal/tangible concepts vs. emotional and sympathetic energies. It's very hard for them to let go of this innate side of their being which is why most of them can't/wont accept the gist of things divine and/or paranormal; even Science has proven how we are each hardwired in ways that lean in one or the other direction.

Interestingly, the exact opposite is true when it comes to those that do "feel" and have a heightened sense of "Environmental Awareness" which, if you'll recall my plethora of posts that explain this point, isn't just how the elder mystics of old helped students to "awaken" their "psychic-centers" but it is likewise why persons in any given vocation cultivate an intuitive way of understanding and executing their job. On one level we are speaking of learned skill but on another level we are looking at that/those skills being placed on auto-pilot (second nature) and amped up with time and application (not "practice" but actual use of said techniques over time; the more you use it the stronger it becomes, just like muscle building)

Those that are empathic/sympathetic to their environment and things (able to tune-in, as it were) have difficulty when it comes to understanding hard logic and frequently see it as being a kind of denial and pronounced arrogance in that we have "Man" trying to make itself "God". . . or so is the thinking of some. but then you have those like myself, who can clearly see how either extreme actually has a point of mutual agreement but it's only obvious to those that are willing to set aside the labels and preconceptions they've been indoctrinated with; they need to stop agreeing with the ministers and start looking at the issue from every possible point of view in order to actually (and honestly) contemplate where the dots are and how they are or aren't connected. In my experience and in my many long chats with seasoned occultists and even noted skeptics, there are far more realistic dots that tie things together than not.

:?: I've mentioned a particular book on here several times "Wisdom of the Mystic Masters" (http://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Mystic-Masters-Joseph-Weed/dp/0139615326/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314974168&sr=8-1); it is THE BOOK I refer all of my students to be it those curious about the art of Mentalism or those wanting to cultivate their Psychic senses. I do so simply because this text cuts through a lot of the more questionable rhetoric, offering a more down to earth picture when it comes to cultivating Mental DISCIPLINE, which is the real distinguisher in my book; one must learn how to refine their mind and take control of it before you are even remotely prepared to handle the more surreal side of things. You need to be able to discern what is what and why; all factors taught in this simple, inexpensive book.

I'd like to encourage. . . super seriously encourage. . . the more ardent cynics we have on this board, to sit down and casually READ (not skim) the book and even give yourselves permission to work with the ideas outlined, doing so without preconceived expectations or projection. You should likewise take note as to how much of what this book covers in the initial 5 or so chapters, that you have already done, at least in part, as part of your own scholastic/academic life, you'll probably be surprised (I'm betting on it).

No, this won't give us "all the answers" but it will allow for a sense of perspective and quite possibly enough footing to better understand one another and not be as condemning and confrontational when it comes to the Psychic Issue.

Just a thought. . .
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby NinjaPuppy » 03 Sep 2011, 04:11

Excellent post Craig!!!
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Arouet » 03 Sep 2011, 07:56

That might be an interesting read.

But you do realise that that study wasn't about mysticism but rather normal everyday instincts in everyone.
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Craig Browning » 04 Sep 2011, 01:11

Arouet wrote:That might be an interesting read.

But you do realise that that study wasn't about mysticism but rather normal everyday instincts in everyone.


Which is what I've always taught and talk about -- "instinct"/"intuition" are two parts of the same; instinct being innate and all too frequently needing to be awaken in today's world which is where the other comes into play and why, training the mind in ways that encourage simple mathematical & music related function, poetry, memory development/recall, etc. allows us to slowly and in many ways "subconsciously" cultivate an intuitional awareness. Technically its the result (goal) of mental training and thus, a "skill" but unlike most skills we are familiar with, intuition becomes second nature akin to breathing, it just happens BUT, when we deliberately focus on something and invoke those skill-sets, we find a unique sense of connection to a given place, circumstance, etc. and thus, able to make decisions (to "see things") based on limited facts.

While the jury is out on certain issues sat beneath the Paranormal banner, this is an area I personal believe is mis-labeled and misunderstood by modern humanity. Stepping back in time, especially if we look at the more Gnostic sense of things, we find that this more down-to-earth concept of "Psychic" is the "norm" and has nothing to do with the more fantastic ideologies & claims so frequently imposed by believer & naysayer alike. . . Hollywood & Religion being the two biggest sourced for said misinformation.
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Arouet » 04 Sep 2011, 12:45

Well, the craig you need to come up with a new lingo. Even if you are right the terms you use have been coopted by those who claim fantastic associations with them.
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby Craig Browning » 04 Sep 2011, 23:35

Arouet wrote:Well, the craig you need to come up with a new lingo. Even if you are right the terms you use have been coopted by those who claim fantastic associations with them.


I know, which is exactly why I put myself into their situation; it allows me to encourage the "believers" to question things but more importantly, to see how a large amount of what people call "Psychic" is misunderstood or mis-labeled logic. . . especially when you break it all down. Our ancestors (most of them) didn't have the education we have in much of today's world, they weren't privy to knowledge about things like ideomotor, psychological profiles, how the two different facets of the mind function, etc. Hell, even intellectuals and researchers still argue about many of those things but the less educated person from just two generations back would define all of these things as being "the gift" or a "blessing" or as most from the Victorian era forward see it, as being "Psychic" or "Paranormal" in nature.

When we read about Eye of Newt and Devil's Shoestrings, etc. in Macbeth the untrained ear assumes a literal meaning and yet, such terms were actually the heath-lander/nick-names of common herbs used for making elixirs, teas, salves, etc. Ignorants however, made it "Magick" especially when such concoctions brought about "miraculous" results; such as how antibiotics do in today's world. Move that category into the future a couple of centuries after our current social structure faces a default and see just how many will see the long hard to intone terms are magickle incantations; the demons & angles summoned for making the "medicine" work.

I find it amazing how the New Age & Pagan types are more readily able (and willing) to understand what I mean when I explain such things than the so-called "educated" and "intelligent" folk out there who get stuck on the semantics or worse, shut-down and assume certain things the instant they hear a particular term such as "Psychic".
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Re: Why our gut instinct is usually right

Postby NinjaPuppy » 05 Sep 2011, 01:56

Craig Browning wrote:When we read about Eye of Newt and Devil's Shoestrings, etc. in Macbeth the untrained ear assumes a literal meaning and yet, such terms were actually the heath-lander/nick-names of common herbs used for making elixirs, teas, salves, etc. Ignorants however, made it "Magick" especially when such concoctions brought about "miraculous" results; such as how antibiotics do in today's world. Move that category into the future a couple of centuries after our current social structure faces a default and see just how many will see the long hard to intone terms are magickle incantations; the demons & angles summoned for making the "medicine" work.

I find it amazing how the New Age & Pagan types are more readily able (and willing) to understand what I mean when I explain such things than the so-called "educated" and "intelligent" folk out there who get stuck on the semantics or worse, shut-down and assume certain things the instant they hear a particular term such as "Psychic".

I always have "bats wing" available. :D
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