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Psychiatrists expose the fraud of Psychiatry

Postby Scepcop » 15 Nov 2010, 01:23

Dr. Niall McLaren, an Australian practicing psychiatrist for 22 years, explains what is wrong with the psychiatric profession: That it cannot/will not take criticism, for fear the entire model of biological psychiatry will unravel.
That there is no science to psychiatric diagnoses, no brain based diseases. And that psychiatry only pushes mental disorders
as biological disease in order to convince people to take psychiatric drugs, causing a host of dangerous side effects.



For more psychiatrists/psychologists and doctors who have spoken out against the fraud of psychiatry's biological model of mental disorders
(chemical imbalance, etc) click here:

http://www.cchrint.org/psychiatric-diso ... fic-tests/

Psychiatrists, Physicians & Psychologists That Debunk Psychiatry as a Science

“There are no objective tests in psychiatry-no X-ray, laboratory, or exam finding that says definitively that someone does or does not have a mental disorder.”
— Allen Frances, Former DSM-IV Task Force Chairman

“…modern psychiatry has yet to convincingly prove the genetic/biologic cause of any single mental illness…Patients [have] been diagnosed with ‘chemical imbalances’ despite the fact that no test exists to support such a claim, and…there is no real conception of what a correct chemical balance would look like.”
— Dr. David Kaiser, psychiatrist

“There’s no biological imbalance. When people come to me and they say, ‘I have a biochemical imbalance,’ I say, ‘Show me your lab tests.’ There are no lab tests. So what’s the biochemical imbalance?”
— Dr. Ron Leifer, psychiatrist

“DSM-IV is the fabrication upon which psychiatry seeks acceptance by medicine in general. Insiders know it is more a political than scientific document… DSM-IV has become a bible and a money making bestseller—its major failings notwithstanding.”
— Loren Mosher, M.D., Clinical Professor of Psychiatry

“All psychiatrists have in common that when they are caught on camera or on microphone, they cower and admit that there are no such things as chemical imbalances/diseases, or examinations or tests for them. What they do in practice, lying in every instance, abrogating [revoking] the informed consent right of every patient and poisoning them in the name of ‘treatment’ is nothing short of criminal.”
— Dr Fred Baughman Jr., Pediatric Neurologist

“Psychiatry makes unproven claims that depression, bipolar illness, anxiety, alcoholism and a host of other disorders are in fact primarily biologic and probably genetic in origin…This kind of faith in science and progress is staggering, not to mention naïve and perhaps delusional.”
— Dr. David Kaiser, psychiatrist

“In short, the whole business of creating psychiatric categories of ‘disease,’ formalizing them with consensus, and subsequently ascribing diagnostic codes to them, which in turn leads to their use for insurance billing, is nothing but an extended racket furnishing psychiatry a pseudo-scientific aura. The perpetrators are, of course, feeding at the public trough.”
— Dr. Thomas Dorman, internist and member of the
Royal College of Physicians of the UK

“I believe, until the public and psychiatry itself see that DSM labels are not only useless as medical ‘diagnoses’ but also have the potential to do great harm—particularly when they are used as means to deny individual freedoms, or as weapons by psychiatrists acting as hired guns for the legal system.”
— Dr. Sydney Walker III, psychiatrist

“The way things get into the DSM is not based on blood test or brain scan or physical findings. It’s based on descriptions of behavior. And that’s what the whole psychiatry system is.”
— Dr. Colin Ross, psychiatrist

“No biochemical, neurological, or genetic markers have been found for Attention Deficit Disorder, Oppositional Defiant Disorder, Depression, Schizophrenia, anxiety, compulsive alcohol and drug abuse, overeating, gambling or any other so-called mental illness, disease, or disorder.”
— Bruce Levine, Ph.D., psychologist and
author of Commonsense Rebellion

“Unlike medical diagnoses that convey a probable cause, appropriate treatment and likely prognosis, the disorders listed in DSM-IV [and ICD-10] are terms arrived at through peer consensus.”
— Tana Dineen Ph.D., Canadian psychologist

Intro to Psychiatry: Industry of Death

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Re: Psychiatrists expose the fraud of Psychiatry

Postby Craig Browning » 15 Nov 2010, 02:29

That's right up there with Kreskin disproving Hypnosis... :roll:

Yes, from one point of view you could argue that Psychiatry/psychology is bogus but as one who managed to get his life back based on the validity of both, I'd have to say that the evidence outweighs the B.S. :lol:
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Postby caniswalensis » 15 Nov 2010, 02:35

Well, there is no denying that Psychiatry/psychology is a "soft science" and that there are a lot of problems and things we do not know.

There is also no denying that there are people who need help.

So what if we got rid of it? What would replace it?
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Re: Psychiatrists expose the fraud of Psychiatry

Postby Scepcop » 15 Nov 2010, 04:52

Craig Browning wrote:That's right up there with Kreskin disproving Hypnosis... :roll:

Yes, from one point of view you could argue that Psychiatry/psychology is bogus but as one who managed to get his life back based on the validity of both, I'd have to say that the evidence outweighs the B.S. :lol:


What do you mean? What evidence? I'm not sure what you're saying. Can you clarify? Or do you like to be vague and mystical as a magician? lol
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Postby Scepcop » 15 Nov 2010, 04:54

caniswalensis wrote:Well, there is no denying that Psychiatry/psychology is a "soft science" and that there are a lot of problems and things we do not know.

There is also no denying that there are people who need help.

So what if we got rid of it? What would replace it?


Maybe spiritual/holistic remedies? Maybe if we don't condemn sufferers as having mental disorders and give them sympathy and understanding instead, it would help?

There are many cases of people wrongly diagnosed or recovering without meds. See this site for instance:

http://www.successfulschizophrenia.com

There is also a book on Amazon called "The Myth of Mental Illness" that sounds interesting.
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Re: Psychiatrists expose the fraud of Psychiatry

Postby Arouet » 15 Nov 2010, 09:29

Scepcop wrote:Maybe if we don't condemn sufferers as having mental disorders and give them sympathy and understanding instead, it would help?


Are those mutually exclusive?
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Re: Psychiatrists expose the fraud of Psychiatry

Postby Craig Browning » 15 Nov 2010, 23:01

Scepcop wrote:
Craig Browning wrote:That's right up there with Kreskin disproving Hypnosis... :roll:

Yes, from one point of view you could argue that Psychiatry/psychology is bogus but as one who managed to get his life back based on the validity of both, I'd have to say that the evidence outweighs the B.S. :lol:


What do you mean? What evidence? I'm not sure what you're saying. Can you clarify? Or do you like to be vague and mystical as a magician? lol


Ignoring my personal experience in having Psychiatry literally save my live a few years back (when I had a complete breakdown and from which I'm still dealing with issues, like agoraphobia) I can give you lists of dozens of people I know personally that have known similar RESULTS... and before you go to holistic & spiritual treatments let me remind you that both have major limitations that the Mental Health sciences do not seem to have.

Religious/Spiritually based treatments are not something everyone is willing to accept/buy into and in certain cases (again, using me as the focus) if a Religious type of therapy were to be introduced the results would be ugly, confrontational and potentially violent. I loathe and distrust ALL forms of organized Religion with special emphases on Christianity (due to its duplicity, rhetoric and basic horse crap); you toss me into a room with a minister that wants to save me by saving my soul and I can promise that the first phase of said contest will be expression of personal bitterness... not towards god but the blank cult said hypocrite represents. The second phase of things would either be homicide or personal self-destruction as the result of hearing more rhetoric and condemnation imposed vs. the kind of esteem building and self-acceptance traditionally offered by Mental Health professionals.

Holistic Treatments, while I do cosign them to a degree, ARE NOT of significant influence to steady acute cases.

I'm presently on 20 mg of Lexapro + Busbar and other psych meds that allow me to function and to do so at a level that is semi-normal. That does not mean that I am over my various Mental Health issues, only that the science of that industry has empowered me and allowed me to reclaim major facets of my life. Something that boogiemen and Jesus simply ain't gonna to deliver.

I hope that was clear enough ;)
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Re: Psychiatrists expose the fraud of Psychiatry

Postby Arouet » 15 Nov 2010, 23:31

The other thing with psychiatry is that we're talking about issues that are not easy to deal with. And the proper treatment is not always obvious. For someone on psychatric mediation, a psychiatrist may need to tinker quite a bit to get the right cocktail to really help the person. These are not one-size fits all treatments. I also know people whose lives have been saved by psychiatric treatment. Meaning they probably would have killed themselves by now had the therapy not been instituted.

I don't know a lot about psychiatry (though I have recently subscribed to a podcast dealing with psychatric issues) so I can't really comment in detail on the OP. But there are many differnt theories and treatments out there- some work, some don't. Science advances and undertanding of human psychology and neurochemistry continues all the time. Calling it "fraud" is simply uncalled for.

I do not consider it demeaning to label someone with a psychiatric illness. I deal with many people who are clinically depressed. Depression is very very real. And it's not as simple as giving someone a hug and telling them that it will be ok. Anyone who has tried to console a clinically depressed person will know how useless that is!
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Postby Scepcop » 16 Nov 2010, 03:06

Then why is there zero scientific evidence that a chemical imbalance causes mental disorder?
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Postby Arouet » 16 Nov 2010, 04:53

Scepcop wrote:Then why is there zero scientific evidence that a chemical imbalance causes mental disorder?


I don't know enough to say what causes what (my instinct is that chemical imbalance is a symptom of depression, not sure if that's the same thing as cause here). But why-ever would you think there is zero scientific evidence about the links between chemical imbalances and some mental disorders?
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Postby derrida » 16 Nov 2010, 15:56

the thing is.. psychiatric doctors have become really easy on medicating people
i really dont think there´s more ADD than 30 years before
but i do know there´s more kids on ritalin and whatever they give them because they are diagnosed that.. so yeah.. thats the part were i do think psychiatric doctors are harmful.

and yeah.. althought there´s MANY cases of missdiagnosis.. ill take science over newage worthless terapies..
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Postby Craig Browning » 17 Nov 2010, 04:16

Scepcop wrote:Then why is there zero scientific evidence that a chemical imbalance causes mental disorder?


I don't know where you've seen that but even Tv commercials for antidepressants give you the rudiments behind the science that allows said scripts to work... granted (and as has been intimated above) we are looking at a field of "treatment" that demands trial & error.

When the clinic I work with (Out Patient Behavioral Health -- Cooley-Dickinson Hospital) first started introducing drugs as part of my care the process was quite slow but amazing at the same time; first there was about 4-6 weeks taking the primary med (Lexapro) a 5 mg a day... then they would step it up by 5 mg for the next 4-6 weeks, etc. until the "Miracle" happens... I'm not kidding, it's almost as if a switch were thrown and I suddenly started functioning in a way that looked and more importantly felt NORMAL. Same goes with some of the other "stabilizing" drugs that I'm on which work with the Psych Meds as well as medication being used to help with my MS (such as Neurontin and Busbar)... even the tranquilizers I have... I actually only take half the dose first and wait 15 minutes to see if or not I'm calming down and holding my composure. Only then do I complete the dosage IF needed.

BTW... the only time I've needed to take the tranqs is when dealing with my father (he's a pain in the ass but even more so now -- 75 w/dementia). When you couple a lifetime of abuse from the man along with seeing him struggling to hold on to his identity now... it's a very strange sort of stress. But it remains the only trigger (thus far) to send me into a deep and dark place thus, my shrink gave me happy pills :lol:

Personally, I think more medication needs to be dispensed in a manner similar to this; there are simply way too many over-medicated people out there in the big old world.
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Postby Arouet » 17 Nov 2010, 05:09

Part of the problem too, I believe, is that patients don't adequately commuunicate with their doctors. They don't let their psychiatriststs know when the cocktail isn't working. This is the doctor's fault too, of course, for not emphasising enough that the client MUST update them in order to ensure that the the right medications are beind administered. Again annectodal, but like you craig I know people who when the cocktail was off, they were miserable, but after months of tinkering and making small adjustments here and there, suddenly the cocktail clicked, and it was like dealing with an entirely different person.
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Postby Craig Browning » 17 Nov 2010, 07:01

Arouet wrote:Part of the problem too, I believe, is that patients don't adequately commuunicate with their doctors. They don't let their psychiatriststs know when the cocktail isn't working. This is the doctor's fault too, of course, for not emphasising enough that the client MUST update them in order to ensure that the the right medications are beind administered. Again annectodal, but like you craig I know people who when the cocktail was off, they were miserable, but after months of tinkering and making small adjustments here and there, suddenly the cocktail clicked, and it was like dealing with an entirely different person.


There are two truths at work here. Firstly, you are right-on when it comes to patients not communicating, especially some of the more chronic cases as well as those that actually don't want to get better. Believe it or not, there are a lot of people in the world that are "addicted" to being ill, it's the only way they know how to function (it's a variation to traditional co-dependent behavior). Then we have another problem on this same front; the patient starts feeling better and then stops taking the meds... actually refusing to take them "because I'm all better now and don't need them..."

Sadly, there is another dangerous culprit that causes this attitude; 12-Step fools that demean those that are being treated by a shrink and thus, chemistry. Certain of the less educated in these groups classifying Psych Meds as "Freezed-Dried Martinis" and not understanding that a.) they are not doctors and need to shut their traps on this topic; and b.) the whole process around issuing psych meds is nothing like it was 40-60 years ago when Bill & Bob kept seeing Zombies in the meeting rooms.

YES! there are still patients sentenced to doing a Thorazine Shuffle in life. Sadly, there are those mental health groups that thrive from tending to chronic mental health problems on behalf of the State (we can thank uncle Ronnie Raygun for closing the various state hospitals and tossing such folks onto the city streets, creating a bigger social problem for us all). Right here in my area we have just such a company and everyone in town can I.D. their clients in that all of them have that classic glazed look in their eyes and aren't quite "present". But this is a social issue that needs addressed and probably never will simply because it's not one of those "buzz terms" that politicians exploit for getting elected... it's a "non-issue" as far as the powers that be are concerned. :x

The fact is though, more people are helped via Psych Meds and therapy (really does need to be done together for best results) than not. I shudder regularly over the fact that my father nor baby brother will never get the help both of them need because of their depression, fear, etc. So, like so many, they won't just die alone and lost in their own head, they will bring down as many others as they can at the same time (and people wonder why I keep at least two states between where I live and them... )
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Re: Psychiatrists expose the fraud of Psychiatry

Postby Scepcop » 21 Nov 2010, 00:08

Check out what freethinking psychiatrist RD Lang said about mental illness and psychiatry. The last three paragraphs say it all.

http://www.psychologistanywhereanytime. ... d_lang.htm

Lang's view of madness

Lang argued that the strange behavior and seemingly confused speech of people undergoing a psychotic episode were ultimately understandable as an attempt to communicate worries and concerns, often in situations where this was not possible or not permitted. Lang stressed the role of society, and particularly the family, in the development of madness. He argued that individuals can often be put in impossible situations, where they are unable to conform to the conflicting expectations of their peers, leading to a 'lose-lose situation' and immense mental distress for the individuals concerned. (In 1956, Gregory Bateson articulated a related theory of schizophrenia as stemming from Double Bind situations.) Madness was therefore an expression of this distress, and should be valued as a cathartic and transformative experience.

This was in stark contrast to the psychiatric orthodoxy of the time (and is still contrary to the majority opinion of mainstream psychiatry). Psychiatrist and philosopher Karl Jaspers had previously pronounced, in his seminal work General Psychopathology, that the content of madness (and particularly of delusions) were 'un-understandable', and therefore were worthy of little consideration except as a sign of some other underlying primary disorder. Lang was revolutionary in valuing the content of psychotic behavior and speech as a valid expression of distress, albeit wrapped in an unusual personal symbolism. According to Lang, if a therapist can better understand his or her patient, the therapist can begin to make sense of the symbolism of the patient's madness, and therefore start addressing the concerns which are the root cause of the distress.

It is notable that Lang never denied the existence of mental illness, but simply viewed it in a radically different light from his contemporaries. For Lang, madness could be a transformative episode whereby the process of undergoing mental distress was compared to a shamanic journey. The traveler could return from the journey with important insights, and may even have become a wiser and more grounded person as a result.

Lang was involved in research linking development of psychosis to family background. Despite supporting evidence, this has been controversial ever since, and the influence of parents who feel 'blamed' for a child's diagnosis of schizophrenia accounts for most of Lang's unpopularity in many circles. It was an inappropriate attribution by commentators who had not grasped the breadth of Lang's view of the nature of pathogenesis in families, as he had maintained throughout his career that parents are equally mystified, and unaware of the disturbed nature of the patterns of communication. Lang's most enduring and practically beneficial contribution to mental health, however, is probably his co-founding and chairmanship in 1964 of the Philadelphia Association and the wider movement of therapeutic communities, adopted in more effective and less confrontational psychiatric settings.

Lang is often regarded as an important figure in the anti-psychiatry movement, along with David Cooper. However, like many of his contemporaries, labeling him as 'anti-psychiatry' is a caricature of his stated views. Lang never denied the value of treating mental distress, but simply wanted to challenge the core values of contemporary psychiatry which considered (and some would say still considers) mental illness as primarily a biological phenomenon of no intrinsic value.

But as Lang was, moreover, a critic of psychiatric diagnosis, he argued that diagnosis of a mental disorder contradicted accepted medical procedure: diagnosis was made on the basis of behavior or conduct, and examination and ancillary tests that traditionally precede diagnosis of viable pathologies like broken bones or pneumonia occurred after (if at all) the diagnosis of mental disorder. Hence, psychiatry was founded on a false epistemology: illness diagnosed by conduct but treated biologically.

The fact that medical doctors had annexed mental disorders did not mean they were practicing medicine; hence, the popular term "medical model of mental illness" is oxymoronic, since, according to Lang, diagnosis of mental illness did not follow the traditional medical model. The notion that biological psychiatry is a real science or a genuine branch of medicine has been challenged by other critics.
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