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Re: Dowsing rods for bomb detection

Postby Craig Browning » 06 Mar 2010, 02:03

ProfWag wrote:
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Dowsing, at least by way of those that work it, is considered 100% natural.

So is astrology, tarot reading, and homeopathic medicine.


No, that's incorrect... Astrology & Tarot are legitimate facets of Paranormal study. Homeopathy has no ties to the supernatural, paranormal, etc. It IS a branch off of Herbology which in turn ties to Medicine. As to a "niche" that it would fit more appropriately into I couldn't say off hand, only that it is not Paranormal or anything remotely esoteric/occult.

Astrology is a pseudo-Science that was once viewed as being a legit science, lending life to Astronomy which seems to have become a prodigal son of sorts. But I've always found it interesting how skeptics want to deny the more mystical roots of today's "logic".

Tarot is a skill that anyone can learn and a form of Divination. The only thing that makes it "paranormal" is the uncanny manner by which the Intuition of the Reader seems to evolve over time and seemingly cultivate certain "impossible" facets of discernment. I have my one theories around this and why, in past era, people saw this as being "Psychic", but my views are a tad bit more down to earth and realistic... 99% boogieman free. :lol:

Technically, all facets of Religion & Philosophy fall under the Paranormal Umbrella in that the majority of such things promote belief in some kind of supernal being, sometimes several. We also find a myriad of "magickle" things attached to them with prophecy leading the pack. Yet, I've never seen Religion set into that niche for some reason... maybe it's just the social-political murmur it would generate if so done? :roll:

Yes, I'm picking nits here. But I think you can understand why a more concise sense of division might be prudent, so as to segregate those things that are mystical from pseudo-science like Homeopathy and oddities like Big Foot, Nessy and the occasional visit by ET
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Re: Dowsing rods for bomb detection

Postby ciscop » 06 Mar 2010, 05:55

craig.. are you for real??
you get better at guessing, thats it
and you get better at changing statements

you have read richard webster and you have read ian rowland
you know what i am talking about

there is nothing paranormal about that
is just entertainment, nothing more, nothing less

let me add something.. i have been doing the draw me a tree readings for free, just for entertaimment with strangers at partys... they all rate me really high. they do think is for real.. and lets face it.. it is just a bunch of mumbo jumbo. it does sounds real, but it isnt.
For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Dowsing rods for bomb detection

Postby ProfWag » 06 Mar 2010, 10:00

Craig Browning wrote:
No, that's incorrect... Astrology & Tarot are legitimate facets of Paranormal study. Homeopathy has no ties to the supernatural, paranormal, etc. It IS a branch off of Herbology which in turn ties to Medicine. As to a "niche" that it would fit more appropriately into I couldn't say off hand, only that it is not Paranormal or anything remotely esoteric/occult.

Craig, I did NOT say they were paranormal or supernatural. Please re-read. You said: "Dowsing, at least by way of those that work it, is considered 100% natural." I replied "So is astrology, tarot reading, and homeopathic medicine." Meaning, that to those that work in astrology, tarot reading, and homeopathic medicine, all consider it to be 100% natural. Whether they are or not, is debatable. Perhaps the word to question in your statement is "natural."
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Re: Dowsing rods for bomb detection

Postby Craig Browning » 06 Mar 2010, 23:01

ciscop wrote:craig.. are you for real??
you get better at guessing, thats it
and you get better at changing statements

you have read richard webster and you have read ian rowland
you know what i am talking about

there is nothing paranormal about that
is just entertainment, nothing more, nothing less

let me add something.. i have been doing the draw me a tree readings for free, just for entertaimment with strangers at partys... they all rate me really high. they do think is for real.. and lets face it.. it is just a bunch of mumbo jumbo. it does sounds real, but it isnt.



Draw Me A Tree has NOTHING to do with being Psychic, never has... it is a Personality Analysis just like Graphology, so don't get things confused.

Ian Rowland has NEVER depended on Readings as his source of sole income. He has no legit background in that world outside loads of critical influence, theory, anecdotes, and conjecture. I'm not discounting what his book contains entirely (I actually encourage my second year students to study it), only that it is NOT based on real world experience; it's just another piece of cynical rhetoric for the most part... especially when he gets to the part about harassing Readers... that's really a mature attitude. :roll:

Richard Webster IS a Reader in the real world and has been for close to 40 years along side Ron Martin and a plethora of others. We all know the difference between what is and is not Cold Reading and we each make a serious distinction between the two when working; when hired as an entertainer we'll cheat out butts off but not so when hired to do legit Readings.

As I've pointed out elsewhere ANYONE can learn how to work with an oracle like the Tarot... there is a very genuine intellectual foundation to it that the average person can, with a bit of effort, absorb and slowly learn the actual language of said system... and that is what it is, a language that we learn how to "Read".

The other thing that you are missing here is that I was trying to clarify the difference as to what the typical person associates with the term "Paranormal" here, not claim any kind of paranormal influences... just looking at the blanket statement and how it seems misapplied most of the time.
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Re: Dowsing rods for bomb detection

Postby Craig Browning » 06 Mar 2010, 23:03

ProfWag wrote:
Craig Browning wrote:
No, that's incorrect... Astrology & Tarot are legitimate facets of Paranormal study. Homeopathy has no ties to the supernatural, paranormal, etc. It IS a branch off of Herbology which in turn ties to Medicine. As to a "niche" that it would fit more appropriately into I couldn't say off hand, only that it is not Paranormal or anything remotely esoteric/occult.

Craig, I did NOT say they were paranormal or supernatural. Please re-read. You said: "Dowsing, at least by way of those that work it, is considered 100% natural." I replied "So is astrology, tarot reading, and homeopathic medicine." Meaning, that to those that work in astrology, tarot reading, and homeopathic medicine, all consider it to be 100% natural. Whether they are or not, is debatable. Perhaps the word to question in your statement is "natural."


I can see what you're saying and while I can see that with Homeopathy the only way I could see that in the other two areas would be where someone exceptionally delusional and in denial is trying to distance themselves from "occult" relations... I see that a lot when it comes to folks raised in a heavy handed religious environment.
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Re: Dowsing rods for bomb detection

Postby really? » 02 Jun 2010, 20:41

Craig Browning wrote:
ProfWag wrote:
Craig Browning wrote:No, that's incorrect... Astrology & Tarot are legitimate facets of Paranormal study. Homeopathy has no ties to the supernatural, paranormal, etc. It IS a branch off of Herbology which in turn ties to Medicine. As to a "niche" that it would fit more appropriately into I couldn't say off hand, only that it is not Paranormal or anything remotely esoteric/occult.

Yes, I'm picking nits here. But I think you can understand why a more concise sense of division might be prudent, so as to segregate those things that are mystical from pseudo-science like Homeopathy and oddities like Big Foot, Nessy and the occasional visit by ET


Actually Craig a case for Homeopathy being paranormal in part could be made. Here's why. When Samuel Hahneman came up with the homeopathic way of treatment he believed there was a life force involved. Today modern users also believe and explain how a dilution in which there's not one remaining molecule left from the initial preparation works is because water retains a memory of that chemical.
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Re: Dowsing rods for bomb detection

Postby ShayneThill » 12 Sep 2013, 17:49

Some best metal detectors can also do the bomb detection.
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Re: Dowsing rods for bomb detection

Postby ShayneThill » 14 Sep 2013, 09:59

ShayneThill wrote:Some best metal detector can also do the bomb detection.

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