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Transhumanism: Man/Machine Fusion = End of Humanity?

Postby Scepcop » 05 Mar 2011, 15:12

Will man and machine eventually be fused together or blended together, to evolve the human race into a race of cybernetic organisms to fit into a new technocratic world? Technology requires us to constantly upgrade to fit large scale industrial society. Will it eventually lead to all of us becoming cybernetic organisms? Will human beings and their brains be obsolete in the future, like the telegraph is obsolete now, and replaced by super cybernetic brains many times more intelligent?

Scary huh? Sounds like a science fiction dystopia. But some people say it's a probable reality in the future. See this Time Magazine article about it.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2048299,00.html

Time Magazine's video about Transhumanism:
http://content.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,784887564001_2048332,00.html
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Re: Transhumanism, Technology, and the End of Humanity

Postby Scepcop » 05 Mar 2011, 21:34

Holy cow, check out this documentary called "The Age of Transitions". In the future, we will all be cyborgs with immortality, no free will, no sexual desires, and a total hive mind, while the elite no longer have to worry about rebellions. That's awful and chilling.

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Re: Transhumanism, Technology, and the End of Humanity

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Mar 2011, 18:19

I remember Y2K. I lost one program on my computer. Bummer man!

Being a child of the 50's and growing up during those 'exciting' 60s with the 'don't trust the establishment' mindset this particular video is mild. They talk about computer chips in our brains? There's an app for that. Think about how this generation is dependent on computers and those fancy cell phones. They don't have to insert a chip directly into your brain, it's already in the palm of your hand. We are already making decisions based on what information we get from a cell phone. Your every move can be tracked via your cellphone, your associations can be tracked via your cell phone, your daily routine and schedule can be monitored, your conversations can be monitored, etc. Your productivity has already been improved without some lab rat brain implant because you can work no matter where you are or what you're doing. The term "Big Brother" used to give people a chill just thinking about it. Now it's a TV show and an American past time. People actually audition to have their every move watched by camera.

About 30 minutes into this video, Eugenics is discussed and they evolve the term into "Transhumanism" which is what this video is about. I found it strange that the images they use to explain the "Hive Mind" show these robotic bee people wearing a bluetooth. At least that is what they look like to me. Hmmmmmm. Yup, that says it all in a nutshell. They discuss sexual urges putting a crimp into the whole eugenics plan. Well now, let's think for a moment here. It seems that autism is on the rise. Some have tried to blame it on vaccinations (just one example) with absolutely no scientific proof. Regardless, the meds that are now prescribed for many of these medical maladies has got the side effect of lack of libido. Hmmmmmmm. It seems to me that many prescription drugs carry that warning in the fine print.

To sum it all up... I'm glad that I'm old. I've seen the wonders of technology evolve in my lifetime but hopefully I won't be around when that technology gets used against us. IMO, this video certainly does present what the future will hold if things keep going the way they are going.
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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby Scepcop » 04 Apr 2012, 02:37

Check out these videos about how transhumanism and future technology may lead to the end of the human race. Pretty scary stuff.









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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby Scepcop » 04 Apr 2012, 02:42

Check out this discussion about Transhumanism and how the Illuminati wants to merge man and machine to eliminate love, emotion and sexuality - to become like the Grey Aliens are. Very disturbing!

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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby Scepcop » 04 Apr 2012, 02:44

Check out these humanoid robots created in Japan! They look chillingly real! Wow. Scary stuff. I guess sci fi is becoming real! The Japanese female robot looks attractive too! Dang.



There's also an interview with Ray Kurzweil in it, where he talks about nanotechnology, and how the power of your Blackberry phone will eventually become the size of a blood cell, so that they can program "robot cells" and inject them into your body to cure disease, cancer, reverse aging, extend life, etc. That's amazing but chilling, because that means that the government could "program" anything into those cells and inject them into you, or put them in your food, and you'd never even know it! This means they'd have full 100 percent control of your mind and body without you even knowing it! And what a perfect excuse they'll have to get you to agree to it too!

Real scary stuff! I can't believe it's becoming a reality now! You'd think this was only science fiction!

Check out this trailer for "The Transcendental Man". It even shows William Shatner saying that he would accept Kurzweil's nanotechnology if it would extend his life.

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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby NinjaPuppy » 04 Apr 2012, 21:45

I read the OP article but was not impressed. Speculation is used with reckless abandon.
Probably. It's impossible to predict the behavior of these smarter-than-human intelligences with which (with whom?) we might one day share the planet, because if you could, you'd be as smart as they would be. But there are a lot of theories about it. Maybe we'll merge with them to become super-intelligent cyborgs, using computers to extend our intellectual abilities the same way that cars and planes extend our physical abilities. Maybe the artificial intelligences will help us treat the effects of old age and prolong our life spans indefinitely. Maybe we'll scan our consciousnesses into computers and live inside them as software, forever, virtually. Maybe the computers will turn on humanity and annihilate us. The one thing all these theories have in common is the transformation of our species into something that is no longer recognizable as such to humanity circa 2011. This transformation has a name: the Singularity.

And maybe I will win the lottery, become the Queen of the world, etc. The article is really nothing more than speculation. Granted, the author gives us all something to think about with some of his theories but I have a fairly simple solution to keep computers from annihilating the human race. It's called pull their plugs. In about 2-6 hours, their batteries will wear out and it will be 'GAME OVER'. ;)
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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby Scepcop » 12 Apr 2012, 21:42

Check out this documentary description. The premises, assumptions and predictions make sense don't they?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/

TRANSCENDENT MAN chronicles the life and ideas of Ray Kurzweil, an inventor and futurist that presents his bold vision of the Singularity, a point in the near future when technology will be changing so rapidly, that we will have to enhance ourselves with artificial intelligence to keep up. Ray predicts this will be the dawning of a new civilization in which we will no longer be dependent on our physical bodies, we will be trillions of times more intelligent and there will be no clear distinction between human and machine, real reality and virtual reality. Human aging and illness will be reversed; world hunger and poverty will be solved and we will ultimately cure death. Critics accuse Ray of being too optimistic and argue that the dangers of the Singularity far outweigh the benefits, pointing out the apocalyptic implications that once machines achieve consciousness, we may not be able to control them...
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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby Scepcop » 18 May 2012, 17:05

I guess Michio Kaku is excited and optimistic about transhumanism and the merging of our brains with technology. lol

THE INTELLIGENCE REVOLUTION - Visions Of The Future - BBC

In the opening instalment, Kaku explains how artificial intelligence will revolutionise homes, workplaces and lifestyles, and how virtual worlds will become so realistic that they will rival the physical world. Robots with human-level intelligence may finally become a reality, and in the ultimate stage of mastery, we'll even be able to merge our minds with machine intelligence.

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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby Scepcop » 08 Apr 2014, 06:27

Very disturbing interview with Daniel Estulin about Transhumanism and how in this century, cybernetic beings and nanotechnology will be developed so that the next generation will no longer be human.

Daniel Estulin is an investigative journalist, researcher, author and the host of a show on RT-TV Latin America. He has given two speeches at the European Parliament on the Bilderberg Group and the international monetary crisis. He returns to discuss themes from his new book, TransEvolution: The Coming Age of Human Deconstruction. He'll describe his vision of the future. TransEvolution asserts that the depth of progress and technological development is such that people, in the very near future, will no longer be human but something else. We'll talk about synthetic biology, XNA molecules, genetic engineering, augmentation of reality, the transhumanist movement philosophy and more. What will become of us in the next generation? Daniel explains how "TransEvolution" and the rise of a new kind of human being fits in with the plans of the super elite. In the second hour, we'll get into nanobots and modern warfare. Daniel says the nanotechnological revolution is about to take humans to a new dimension. He'll also talk about food as a weapon, infertility, cradle to grave health care and the depopulation agenda. We'll philosophize on why humankind is turning their backs on their natural selves and the natural world. What does it mean to be human?

http://www.danielestulin.com/

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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby SydneyPSIder » 08 Apr 2014, 11:33

that's just silly. we can't cure cancer, we still don't have any good broad spectrum antivirals let alone with low side effect profiles, vaccines do as much harm as the wild diseases they claim to prevent, we can't clone anything that lasts for long, tissue rejection issues are still a problem, even metal hip replacements were found to flake apart and cause metallosis, so how are we going to create this amazing world in that space of time? The body is an amazing self-repairing organism already, we have never made a machine that can self-repair to anywhere near that extent -- in fact, not at all. Nanotechnology and biotechnology is just nowhere near that advanced.
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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby Scepcop » 17 Apr 2014, 15:19

SydneyPSIder wrote:that's just silly. we can't cure cancer, we still don't have any good broad spectrum antivirals let alone with low side effect profiles, vaccines do as much harm as the wild diseases they claim to prevent, we can't clone anything that lasts for long, tissue rejection issues are still a problem, even metal hip replacements were found to flake apart and cause metallosis, so how are we going to create this amazing world in that space of time? The body is an amazing self-repairing organism already, we have never made a machine that can self-repair to anywhere near that extent -- in fact, not at all. Nanotechnology and biotechnology is just nowhere near that advanced.


You're right. Maybe Transhumanism is very far off. Or maybe the elites have technology far ahead of what we see and aren't sharing it with us. Many goverment whistleblowers have claimed this.
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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby SydneyPSIder » 18 Apr 2014, 18:38

Scepcop wrote:
SydneyPSIder wrote:that's just silly. we can't cure cancer, we still don't have any good broad spectrum antivirals let alone with low side effect profiles, vaccines do as much harm as the wild diseases they claim to prevent, we can't clone anything that lasts for long, tissue rejection issues are still a problem, even metal hip replacements were found to flake apart and cause metallosis, so how are we going to create this amazing world in that space of time? The body is an amazing self-repairing organism already, we have never made a machine that can self-repair to anywhere near that extent -- in fact, not at all. Nanotechnology and biotechnology is just nowhere near that advanced.


You're right. Maybe Transhumanism is very far off. Or maybe the elites have technology far ahead of what we see and aren't sharing it with us. Many goverment whistleblowers have claimed this.

who are these 'govt whistleblowers'? what technology are they claiming to have seen? most ppl in govt I know are complete clowns who have never done anything useful in their lives -- it's all about work done by engineering subcontractors. why would govt workers have any idea what 'the elites' were up to? where's any evidence of anything whatsoever? etc etc

I've been tracking the very slow development of a bunch of novel antivirals, and it's a much harder slog than these miraculous instant cures they're apparently 'hiding' from us. For instance, they're trialling a new Hep C antiviral for the first time that has cleared 90% of cases within 12 weeks, without the terrible side effects and costs of current treatments. See also the 'DRACO' broad spectrum antiviral project, only in its infancy, that hopes to be able to stop almost all virus families in their tracks. THAT project, if successful, would stop everything from HIV to the common cold with a single pill. But it's common knowledge in the public domain. The testing and approval process is also extremely long-winded and laborious. Many trial drugs prove to be so dangerous they have to be abandoned. How would 'the elites' have fast-tracked safer drugs and treatments for themselves with our admittedly still very limited ability to synthesise safe 'magic bullet' drugs? I see 'the elites' dying of the same diseases in the same timeframes as everybody else. One difference -- in the affluent north shore and eastern suburbs areas of Sydney, vaccination uptake rates for kids are considerably lower than poorer areas elsewhere -- the elites and intellectuals are perhaps more aware of vaccine dangers on the grapevine than the hoi polloi, and wish to safeguard their kids by NOT giving them dozens of vaccinations.
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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby SydneyPSIder » 29 Apr 2014, 16:31

NinjaPuppy wrote:It seems that autism is on the rise. Some have tried to blame it on vaccinations (just one example) with absolutely no scientific proof. Regardless, the meds that are now prescribed for many of these medical maladies has got the side effect of lack of libido. Hmmmmmmm. It seems to me that many prescription drugs carry that warning in the fine print.


There's definitely scientific proof, although vested interests try to suppress it at every turn for reputational/profit-making reasons.

I was wondering for a while if over-vaccinating was a eugenic plan, a way of making us 'Roundup Ready' in the next generation by the act of maiming or killing infants who do not react well to the vaccines, meaning they are effectively knocked out from reproducing, and the survivors will go on to make kids who will not have ARs to the vaccines. However, I don't think this will happen in the next generation either, putting aside the ethics of such an idea for the moment, in that genetic variation even in a universal vaccination milieu means the same problems will probably keep cropping up for generations to come -- kids will still continue to have nasty ARs from vaxes in reasonably high numbers, creating problems as big as the wild diseases.

The 'scientific proof' at first sight is the sheer number of sudden strange new 'epidemics' of infant and childhood disease that have sprung up since the 80s, when the vaccine programs intensified and big pharma in the US were given legal indemnity from prosecution, instead levying a tax on every vax to pay out those whose complaints were so vocal and the connection so obvious they had to be paid out -- complete with gag orders and agreements.

The other thing is that they are all immune and auto-immune disorders, something that is extremely biologically and scientifically plausible from a vax event.

These include, in the US:

- 0.1% SIDS deaths peaking at exactly the same time as the DTaP vaxes -- SIDS was never known as a syndrome until the 80s
- 2% autism rates, often concomitant with an MMR jab, but also seems to build up cumulatively with a number of vaxes -- not a real problem until vax campaigns got underway in the late 30s for diphtheria etc, again made much worse with heightened vaccinations since the 80s at ever younger ages
- 8% ADHD rates -- signs of brain damage and encephalitis
- 11% allergies, especially to peanuts and eggs, both ingredients used in vaxes -- injecting a protein into the body sensitises it as an allergic reaction vs consuming it via the GI tract for digeston
- up to 25% life threatening asthma in children. a number of studies have shown that delaying the infant DTaP vax schedule by even 1 month halves the rate of childhood asthma in 7 year olds -- in Canada, from 15% to 7%.

and new epidemics in other immune diseases such as Type 1 diabetes and non Hodgkins lymphoma. The medical profession claims itself to be 'perplexed' and 'bewildered' at all these new epidemics and syndromes, and mysteriously cannot posit a single convincing cause or 'change in the environment' that would cause it. I would point out the only thing that has really changed 'environmentally' is the frequency and age of vax events.

Here is a study of the compromised VAERS database where a link is shown between vax events and autism -- a causative link derived even from a compromised dataset:

This Study Reveals Children are Being Vaccinated With Toxic Levels of Aluminium Causing Neurological Damage and Autism

and also one on the DTaP and SIDS connection:

Vaccines Linked to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS): Evidence
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Re: Transhumanism, Nanotechnology and the End of Humanity

Postby Arouet » 30 Apr 2014, 10:29

Damn pay walls! I'd really like to read the Aluminum paper direct.
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