Human Flying

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[Indigo Child]

I had found this blurb on Wikipedia myself when researching the Ingo Swan OBE experiment.
Note that it says:

"Swann wrote that he was aware of most of the objects on shelf above his head, but he did not know it held four numbers on a side. A side that would not have been visible if a reflecting surface had been angled near the end. "

Hence, even if Swan did use the drawing board as an extension, he could not get at the target. Further research on this experiment confirms this to be the case:

in 1971 Karlis Osis began to plan OBE research at the American SPR, One of the first subjects to be tested there was Ingo Swann, who went to the laboratory two or three times a week where Janet Mitchell tested him to see whether he could identify a target placed out of sight. A platform was suspended from the ceiling about 10 feet above the ground and divided into two. On either side of a partition various objects were placed and Swann was asked to try to travel up to see them. The reason for the partition was to see whether Swann would identify the correct target for the position in which he claimed it to be. Bright colors and clear familiar shapes seemed most successful and glossy pictures or glass did not work well for the experimental purposes.
After his OBE, Swann usually made drawings of what he had ‘seen.’ Although these drawings were far from perfect renderings of the original objects, they were similar enough that when eight sets of targets and respondes were given to an independent judge she correctly matched every pair; a result which is likely to happen by chance only once in about 40,000 times [Mit73].
The results of all these experiment were most encouraging.

http://www.nderf.org/obe_dream_faqs_nde ... OB_vision_


Thus the theory of using his drawing board as an extension with a mirror can be ruled out owing the fact that the targets would not have been visible due the height and partition. Moreover, Ingo Swaan is a credible subject, and has been investigated by many reputed scientists and subjected to vigorous tests. However, having said all of this, I still will only take this experiment as being suggestive of the reality of OBE, and again not conclusive. Like Dr Tart's study it lacks an observer present in the room or CCTV footage of the test subject and the target is present within the same room as the subject.
I will only accept a study as conclusive if a subject is able to see a target in another location. Now having said that, I will point you to studies that do exactly that:

Other experimenters including Robert Morris at the Psychical Foundation of North Carolina spent two years investigating OBEs. A volunteer subject Keith 'Blue' Harary, who claimed to have been having out of body experiences since childhood, was able to lie down in a sealed laboratory room and project himself to another house twenty yards away. While there he was able to read letters and report accurately on which experimenters were sitting there and where they were sitting.

In the United States, Karlis Osis and Boneita Perskari spent several years doing scientific research with an excellent OBE subject, Alex Tanous, and were able to achieve significant results. One particular test involved Tanous traveling astrally to a different place miles away to visit a particular office to see what was on the table then report back. Tanous did not know that at this office a psychic, Christine Whiting, was waiting to see if she could see anyone coming to visit. With her clairvoyant sight she was able to see Tanous come into the office and as well she described in detail his position and the shirt with rolled-up sleeves and the corduroy pants he was wearing (Williams 1989: 35-36).

French researchers including Professor Richet spent many years having the exteriorized body move material objects, produce raps at a distance and affect photographic plates and calcium screens. They photographed exteriorization.
http://www.victorzammit.com/book/chapter07.html

The late Karlis Osis, of the American Society for Psychical Research, sought to determine whether a physical instrument could detect a psychic's "astral body" at the time he was attempting to view a hidden target through his astral vision. Osis installed a strain gauge (which detects extremely subtle physical movements) in front of an optical device in which a graphic "target" was concealed. The setup was such that the image could only be perceived face-on - from the place where the strain-gauge was located; otherwise, from a different angle, a viewer would only see overlapping lines. The psychic Alex Tannous, who was not told about the strain gauge, was asked to attempt to project in front of the optical apparatus, and describe what he saw. Osis found that the strain gauge registered significantly more movement in those trials in which Tannous gave correct descriptions of the target. The implication may be that some facet of Tannous' mind was indeed "projecting" in front of the optical apparatus.

In the mid-1970s, Dr. Robert Morris and his colleagues conducted an interesting experiment with psi researcher Keith Harary as subject. Like Miss Z, Harary - at the time a psychology student - seemed able to voluntarily induce an OBE. His kitten, enclosed in a cage and constantly filmed, was to act as a biological detector of Harary, who would attempt to 'project' his consciousness into the cage from a distant room. Indeed, it was found that the kitten's agitation - its movements in the cage - was significantly reduced specifically at the moments at which Harary had been instructed to project his consciousness into the cage. Over time, however, the kitten's "baseline agitation" decreased, and its reactions to Keith Harary seem to have declined - perhaps as it became habituated to the experimental conditions (i.e., being locked in a cage!)

http://www.parapsych.org/out_of_body_experiences.htm

In all these studies I have mentioned there are sufficient controls and all involve the subject having to project to another location to see a target/s, they also involve some kind of detector at the location to detect the astral body. These are therefore conclusive studies for the reality of astral projection.

[Indigo Child]

[Indigo Child]

Levitation has been elevated from being pure science fiction to science fact, according to a study reported today by physicists.

Professor Ulf Leonhardt and Dr Thomas Philbin, from the University of St Andrews in Scotland, have worked out a way of reversing this pheneomenon, known as the Casimir force, so that it repels instead of attracts.

Their discovery could ultimately lead to frictionless micro-machines with moving parts that levitate But they say that, in principle at least, the same effect could be used to levitate bigger objects too, even a person.

The Casimir force is a consequence of quantum mechanics, the theory that describes the world of atoms and subatomic particles that is not only the most successful theory of physics but also the most baffling.

The force is due to neither electrical charge or gravity, for example, but the fluctuations in all-pervasive energy fields in the intervening empty space between the objects and is one reason atoms stick together, also explaining a “dry glue” effect that enables a gecko to walk across a ceiling.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1559579 ... ation.html

If the Casimir forces polarity is changed so that it repels instead of attracts, an object can be made to levitate, including a human being. Now recall how the Yogasutras says levitation is possible, by Samayama(perfect concentration) on the upwards/repulsive force called Udana Vayu the Yogi is able to levitate above the ground and walk over water. Interestingly, these pranas(subtle forces) are in the etheric level of reality, and the casmir subtle force is also in the ether(zero point energy field) Yet, even more confirmation that these Yoga powers are actually possible from quantum physics. It does not take a leap of faith then to accept that the levitation reports found throughout human cultures are actually genuine.

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[Indigo Child]

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[Indigo Child]

Nope, I understand it alright. I think what you dont understand that the article above
shows scientists have worked out how to use the casmir force and how to turn it
into a repulsive force to levitate objects.

Moreover, you have not caught my point that the casmir force is caused by flux
in the quantum vacuum(differs from an ordinary vacuum) which is what causes
two metal plates to attract in a vacuum. This is what is meant by casimir force.
Likewise, pranic flows from the ether cause forces in the physical, this force is
manipulated by the yogis to achieve levitation. We have a match.

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[Indigo Child]

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[Indigo Child]

The only leap of faith required here is that mind can be used to manipulate the casimir force, which
otherwise requires technology. However, the fact that the casimir force is identical to the pranic forces
in Yoga is unambigious.

The zero point energy field is basically the ether that ancient spiritual traditions have long said existed,
which was rejected in modern times due to the Michelson morley experiment, which tested for the ether. It
was concluded that the vacuum was completely empty and there was no ether as such underlying it. Now,
we know for a fact that the vacuum is not empty but it is teeming with energy which flucutates in and out
from the virtual zero point energy point and the physical space. In other other words the ancients were right
that beyond physical empty space existed another element, that the Yogis called "Akasha" they have long instited
there is a 5th non-physical element beyond the 4 physical elements within which etheric energy flow, which become
matter when they manifest from the field of akasha, which they called prana, Chinese call chi and Japanese call ki.
This etheric force was regulated by practices to achieve levitation, to create energy balls(chi balls) in martial arts to
break concrete etc. They knew how to amplify these etheric forces to achieive all kinds of effects.

And now what is quantum mechanics doing? It is doing exactly the same thing, it is manipulating etheric forces and amplifying
them to achieive - guess what- levitation, one of the feats the Easterns achieived by manipulating and amplifying etheric forces.
There is certainly a match here, and what is even more striking, the force is called "Udana Vayu" meaning the upwards force. It is
when this etheric upwards force is manipulated that a human can levitate. And what is Professor Leonhardt saying? When you manipulate
the quantum(etheric) force and change its polarity to upwards, it can make things levitate.

In summation: Not only is human levitation possible according to quantum mechanics, it is achieived using the same scientific
principles told in Yoga.

[Indigo Child]

To answer your question that we are already levitating. Yes, because we never actually make contact with
the ground, because the electrons within us and the ground repell each other. So we are alway hovering
above the ground, never actually directly on the ground.

Now the only leap of faith we require is that the mind is able to achieive what technology is able to achieive.
First of all, the reason we struggle to accept that the mind has power over matter, is because of a fundamental
assumption that the mind is just an emergent property of matter. This assumption has not fact been proven to be
true and it in fact is a known fact that mind does affect matter. Are you familiar with psychosomatic effects? A psycho
somatic effect is when a psychological state can a change within a physical state. Such as giving somebody positive ideas
can actually cause them to have positive physical states. In the past few decades several studies have been conducted on
mind over matter, and positive results have been obtained. I can fill the next few pages with these studies.

The assumptions we began the modern age with have been proven false and our scientific view today is almost identiical
to the Yogic view. We are pretty much on the cusp of admitting that the universe is mind stuff, and responds to minds. All
the powers in Yoga, we now know are technologically possible in quantum mechanics. The only thing that remains to be admitted
that these powers can be achieived by using the mind. Do you not believe in the powers the mind has? It can do everything that
technology can and more.

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[quote="Indigo Child"][/quote]
So says you. You still have only provided an argument from belief. Saying what you've said over and over does not make it anymore true this time than all the previous times.
I really wish you had the ability to step back and cross examine yourself and apply the critical thinking which this forum says it's all about. But if you are unable to self cross examine then come on over to the JREF there will be lots of ordinary people that can help you to see there. Since none of us skeptical folks here have had any success so far.
I'm surprised you knew the reason why we are never in contact with any object.

[Indigo Child]