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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby NinjaPuppy » 04 Mar 2010, 03:53

Naaaaaaaaaaaah, that's fashion and style. It is the one thing that each generation tends to create on their own. Remember bell bottoms?
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby Craig Browning » 05 Mar 2010, 02:18

NinjaPuppy wrote:Naaaaaaaaaaaah, that's fashion and style. It is the one thing that each generation tends to create on their own. Remember bell bottoms?


Yes, and I miss them! :lol:

I do understand the generational thing but I also understand self-respect and the idea of dignity which said "style" lacks at a grotesque level. It proves that all their taste is in their mouth...

Just last week I saw a kid damn near bust his face as he was getting off the bus... he over sized pants slid to his knees and caused him to not step right as he moved down the steps... I think if he did fall it would have made a lasting impression :lol:
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby NinjaPuppy » 05 Mar 2010, 04:44

I am quite sure that similar things happened to Greek & Roman warriors fighting in high winds.

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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby NinjaPuppy » 05 Mar 2010, 04:45

Fashion has never really been all that practical.
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby Craig Browning » 06 Mar 2010, 01:48

NinjaPuppy wrote:Fashion has never really been all that practical.


Admit it though... Toga's were cool!
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Mar 2010, 02:36

But if your students starting showing up in public wearing them, you would think they are as odd as hangy pants.
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby Craig Browning » 06 Mar 2010, 23:06

NinjaPuppy wrote:But if your students starting showing up in public wearing them, you would think they are as odd as hangy pants.


Not really... but then I've been known to participate in my fair share of Fantasy Role Play scenarios :lol:
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Mar 2010, 23:13

Craig Browning wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:But if your students starting showing up in public wearing them, you would think they are as odd as hangy pants.


Not really... but then I've been known to participate in my fair share of Fantasy Role Play scenarios :lol:

Oh baby, you are preaching to the choir here. My closet is full of 'costumes' that I wear almost every day of the week in some legit capacity or another.
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby Scepcop » 26 Apr 2010, 14:06

Check out this video by a teen who dropped out of high school. In it he exposes the mind control and brainwashing of the public school system. What a bright teen!

“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby Nostradamus » 26 Apr 2010, 22:56

Oh boo hoo. Everyone is a victim. The criminals are victims too. Boo hoo.

What a load of claptrap this kid posts. I saw that this probably came from Alex Jones' show.

The kid's claim to fame seems to be that he says he was not allowed to wear a 9/11 t-shirt for his yearbook photo.
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby Craig Browning » 29 Apr 2010, 20:51

Sadly a very huge percentage of young people in today's public school system have been CONvinced that they must have this or this latest things (especially iPods & PC type items) and if parents don't get them such things, they aren't loved. We likewise have a group that insists on abusing things like "Freedom of Expression" and that badly abused document known as the U.S. Constitution simply because they have been taught how to manipulate "IT" along with circumstance in order to get whatever they want... then again they have been taught by the "adults" surrounding them, television and other environmental influences that it is ok to be conniving, manipulative and under-handed so long as you don't get caught; it's "normal" to be two-faced with your "friends" rather than loyal... and of course, it's perfectly fine to live outside your means and when the house of cards starts to fall, bail out... just go through the process that allows you to legally steal from various businesses that trusted you to pay your debts, and start anew... Kind of how the banks & stock companies have done over the past two years, wouldn't you say?

On so many levels kids like the one in this video needs to have two very special experiences over the next couple of years. Firstly, send him to a country that's actually poor, let him see what life is really like for the majority of people in the world vs. those of us fortunate enough to live in the European type of society. After a year of surviving actual poverty and learning something about loyalty, family, community and what's really important ship him off to Paris Island for six weeks... I don't care if he serves from that point out, just that he enjoys the rigors of boot camp.

:o Damn Craig, that's awfully harsh! :o

Perhaps, but we can't (legally) spank the little bastards anymore so we need to do something "passive" in order to teach them simple, honorable things like gratitude, honor, taking responsibility, the value of education and hard work, etc.

Then again, I think a good score of the parents tied to kids with this kind of attitude, should be there side by side with their off-spring, learning some of these same lessons. :lol:
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby Scepcop » 27 Jul 2010, 07:04

This article describes very well why high school is such an insane dysfunctional and unnatural environment. It makes so much sense.

http://paulgraham.com/nerds.html
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The True Purpose of Education in America

Postby Scepcop » 27 Jul 2010, 08:05

Here is an essay I wrote in my ebook about the true purpose of education in America:


The True Purpose of Education in America: Indoctrination, Buffer Class, Dumbing Down

Education in America is basically a system to indoctrinate you into becoming a “happy slave” and robot who doesn’t think too much, but just enough to do your job. The curriculum keeps you in left brained mode so that you remain practical, weak and subservient to the system, never realizing your true inner power and capacity for higher consciousness. In the education system, people are basically resources to groom for the business economy.

The purpose of public education is not to educate, enlighten or increase your intelligence. Nor is it to enrich you as a person, mentally and spiritually. It's to shape and mold you as a business resource to become a corporate drone while keeping you disciplined and under control during adolescence, all the while making you think that you are learning wonderful and useful things. And it's also to mold the way you think so that you will conform and obey (nevermind the fact that they also preach to you that America is a free country). Ironically, they preach the propaganda of America being “the land of the free”, while at the same time they command you to obey and conform to the school system and its schedules and routines, which is basically a little dictatorship full of rules and policies. Freedom my a**.

They also claim to promote critical thinking, yet they ironically tell you what to think and believe at the same time (e.g. capitalism is good, greed is good, America is a democracy and the land of the free, other countries suffer cause they do not follow America’s example, etc). But of course, you aren’t supposed to see such contradictions or question it. Your job is to study hard, conform and obey. That’s it. It’s a robot molding process.

99 percent of what they teach you in school are things you don't ever need to know and will NEVER use, either in real life or in any job or profession. They know that, but they NEVER tell you that. Would any teacher admit to their students that most of what they are teaching them will never be of use to them? Of course not. What they tell you is to study hard, get good grades, and pass exams so you can move to the next grade and have a better future. In other words, study hard so that you can make more money is the motto and life mission that they indoctrinate you with. But the real purpose of memorizing such useless data for exams is to condition you to obey and follow whatever you are told.

In addition, the high school environment is dysfunctional, insane and unnatural. It is totally bad for your mental health and self-esteem. Cliques are closed and pompous, and kids are overly judgmental and looking for an excuse to become hostile and ridicule any target they can find. These articles describe this well:

http://montalk.net/conspiracy/39/the-ho ... -education
http://paulgraham.com/nerds.html

And of course, throughout the whole "education process" they feed you the promise that if you work hard for them and retire, giving them the best years of your life, then you'll have the time and means to do any extensive traveling you dream of. Yeah right, with the poison they give you in American food, fat chance (pun intended). So in other words, you aren't supposed to have too much fun until you're too old and unhealthy to have fun anymore. They know that it may not even work out that way, but they keep the illusion of that going to serve their interests (not yours). You are conditioned and brainwashed into thinking that that's the only route in life; there is no alternative. You were born to be a slave, and the purpose of life is to work only. Everyone else thinks that, so you are obligated to as well. And while you slave away your best years to them, you get 2 weeks off a year to go to Disneyland, New York, Hawaii, or some touristy crap, where you will never see or experience even 0.000001 percent of the world. (And many Americans don’t even travel during their 2 weeks of paid vacation. They just stay home. Or they don’t even take the vacation at all. Instead they cash it in.)

What the powers of imperial America never tell you is that you don't have to be old, retired, or financially independent to travel the world. Many people with little money pull it off, by alternative living, hitchhiking (which is illegal in some of the US), camping, and using hospitality/accommodation websites (e.g. www.hospitalityclub.org, www.couchsurfing.com, www.globalfreeloaders.com, etc.), for years at a time. For instance, see this famous case at: www.hitchhiketheworld.com , www.ledbydestiny.com .

After high school, you are encouraged to go to college to raise your career level and status, where again you are bombarded with higher level "education" which in reality is just more useless information that you're tested on. Most of what you study and memorize from college coursework under your degree program is NEVER used in the profession that you are specializing in, and is largely unnecessary for the work that you actually do. And even in the few specializations which are the exception, you still cram down far more than you need to know, just to give the college system an excuse to mold you and weed people out with their fees.

Another purpose of college is to create a middle class to act as a buffer between the rich and poor, protecting and shielding those who run the country from everyone else below them that might undermine the status quo. By using the old "divide and conquer" strategy, the power elite divides its subjects in two, creating a middle class which gives the lower class a way to move up to quell some of their oppression or dissatisfaction (or at least the illusion of it) and thus act as a buffer between the elite and lower class. (See Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States) This also serves the purpose of setting the people against each other – middle vs. lower class – so that they do not unite against the real oppressors, which are the power elite that control the major banks, military industrial complex, media, corporations, government, etc. But unless you have a radical socialist history teacher (like I did) you’ll never hear about these ulterior purposes of college.

Howard Zinn, author of A People’s History of the United States explains:

http://www.lannan.org/docs/arundhati-roy-020918-trans-conv.pdf
“And this is so much the history of the United States which developed perhaps the largest middle class. That is, the United States has had enough wealth so it could bribe enough people in the population to create a middle class which became useful as a buffer between the very rich and that part of the population which could not even rise into the middle class. So the middle class, in the United States, has always been enticed by the establishment into thinking that it can rise into the upper class and not told that it can also descend. [Laughter]. The result is that the United States educational system teaches us from the very beginning that we are not a class society. To use the term "class", in the United States? it's just a term you use for school, right. [Laughter] ‘This is my class’ sort of thing.”

http://www.indexmagazine.com/interviews ... zinn.shtml
“Class is just not addressed in the United States. The pretense is that we're all one big happy family. The government uses language about representing "the national interest." This assumes that we all have the same interests you know, that Exxon and I have the same priorities, or that the government and I have the same desire to go to war. I'm suspicious of terms like "national security" or "national defense," which try to envelop the whole population within one common position which doesn't really exist.”


Another purpose of the middle class, summarized by one of Zinn’s fans, is:

http://www.geocities.com/howardzinnfans/peopleshistreview.html
“The middle class has been created as a buffer between the hungry lower class and the well-fed upper class. By taking resources away from the poor and giving away just enough resources to the middle class, the upper class causes enough tension between the two classes to divert attention from the real crook, itself.”


Here is how another Zinn reader paraphrased the choices the ruling class faced when creating college and the middle class:

http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/11/06/nina-simone-%E2%80%9Cpirate-jenny%E2%80%9D/
“Eventually, Zinn notes, the rich realized that they couldn’t keep ALL of the wealth to themselves. They decided it was necessary to create an educated, civilized and semi-monied middle-class that would serve as a buffer against the masses of the poor. You know the old saying: a man who has nothing, has nothing left to lose. Therefore, threats of joblessness, or jail, or even death, are insufficient to keep him in his place. When you have an socio-economic system that, by definition, creates massive amounts of extreme poverty, the ruling class of said system have only two choices: employ a standing army to protect themselves, or, has eventually happened in America, tweak the system.”


But the middle class is what keeps our exploitative system intact, as political prisoner Jeffrey Luers vociferates on in his pamphlet:

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2004/09/117280.php
“The enormous wealth in this country has created the richest ruling class in history with enough left over to pass out to the middle class, ensuring they act as a buffer between the have and the have-nots. Is it any wonder that the presidential 'elections' revolve around middle class issues? All two of the recognized candidates are constantly seeking support from middle class America promising this or that in return. Meanwhile, the money to support campaigns comes in from corporate donations, ensuring that government policy is well paid for. Why is it no candidate ever reached out to the 50 million people struggling to get by? The middle class lends legitimacy to a well thought out facade. But when all is said and done, a rich ruler is a rich ruler is a rich ruler.”


Commenting on the above, a reader wrote to me:

“Dear Winston,

This is brilliant. I never connected that to the failure of Marx's prediction. You know, the ruling class is never just going to disappear ushering in actual democracy. It's better to just let us think we have a choice.”


But that’s not all. The conspiracy movement has revealed a hidden purpose that you are meant to think is by accident. Charlotte Iserbyt, who served as Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the Reagan Administration, has blown the whistle on a deliberate government social engineering to “dumb down” the American public. Of course, only the alternative media gave her any press. The mainstream media ignored her, like they do with most whistleblowers.

You can view her website and download her free 700+ page book here:

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

Excerpt from the Forward of her book:

“Charlotte Iserbyt is to be greatly commended for having put together the most formidable
and practical compilation of documentation describing the “deliberate dumbing down” of
American children by their education system. Anyone interested in the truth will be shocked
by the way American social engineers have systematically gone about destroying the intellect
of millions of American children for the purpose of leading the American people into a socialist
world government controlled by behavioral and social scientists.”


Or watch some interviews with her on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... erbyt&aq=0
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby ProfWag » 27 Jul 2010, 20:23

What is your recommendation Scepcop? Do away with school?
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Re: The Horrors of Public Education

Postby NinjaPuppy » 27 Jul 2010, 23:43

ProfWag wrote:What is your recommendation Scepcop? Do away with school?

That seems a bit over the top now doesn't it? I think that for starters, we need to see more money be put into school programs. At this point, it seems as if public schools are nothing more than a free babysitting service to some parents. For some school administrations the only thing that matters is those standardized test scores and their ratings. The rest of the parents and children are stuck somewhere in the middle of the system.
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