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Why do most kids in US hate school but foreign kids love it?

Postby Scepcop » 22 Nov 2009, 11:47

Why is it that most kids in the US hate school and consider it to be like a prison? They get really excited and celebrate, for example, when school gets canceled for the day. But kids in other countries, like the Philippines, love school and consider it an honor and blessing to go to it?

Is it because the US school system dehumanizes kids, takes away their individuality and makes them feel like "raw material" to be processed? I certainly felt that way, like I was there to be indoctrinated.

This film makes some good points about that. It features a couple independent researchers and freethinkers explaining how the US education system dumbs down kids, turning them into a left brained slave labor force. One guy makes a good point about how artistic and music programs in schools are constantly cut to promote left brain programs.

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Re: Why do most kids in US hate school but foreign kids love it?

Postby Nostradamus » 22 Nov 2009, 12:01

I've been to many countries - mainly poorer nations. School is not available to everyone. School is paid for by the parents.

School dehumanizes? I do not believe that.

My kids do well in school because I work with my kids. I, and not the teachers, am responsible for my kids education. The teachers have more ability that me, but failure of my kids is my problem not the teachers. My kids and I do not do their homework together. They do the homework and then explain it to me. I know what books they read. I meet with the teachers on a regular basis. I explain to the teachers what we do at home and then ask the teachers for advice on how I can improve what we do at home.

Failures in our school system happen when parents expect the teachers to be babysitters for their kids. Failures happen when parents are unaware of what their children are learning and doing in school.

Maybe parents in other countries do what we do - care about their childrens' education.
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Re: Why do most kids in US hate school but foreign kids love it?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 22 Nov 2009, 19:10

That video seems to start in the middle of an interview and so far I really don't get at what the guy in the zippy flack vest is trying to say. As I'm listening to him, I keep thinking, if I had a teacher that monotone and boring, I'd zone out in a heartbeat. HMOG! WTF is he trying to say??? He is not making any sense at all. Now I'm up to Mr. right brain, left brain... also not really making any valid point. Back to Mr. ZippyVest and now he's really not making any sense at all. Close the video out with some Hitler questions and you've got a nonsense tri-fecta.

If there is a simple answer to this question, "Why do most kids in US hate school but foreign kids love it?", I think that ND gets the ball rolling with this statement:
Nostradamus wrote:Failures in our school system happen when parents expect the teachers to be babysitters for their kids. Failures happen when parents are unaware of what their children are learning and doing in school.

Maybe parents in other countries do what we do - care about their childrens' education.

I have heard teachers complain that school administration only care about the state test scores. OK, I can believe that but how else are they going to know if the teachers are effective? It's been too many years since I have been a kid or had a school aged kid, so I can't confirm or deny if kids hate school today. The little ones that I talk to seem to love school here. It seems around the 5th grade that enthusiasm seems to dwindle but it picks up again around 9th grade. I also think that has to do with the age group as a whole. Those budding teen years can be a bit intense for the average child.

If parents look at school as a way to get a break from their children, even the best schools with excellent teachers won't be able to motivate those children.
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Re: Why do most kids in US hate school but foreign kids love it?

Postby Nostradamus » 23 Nov 2009, 06:37

I have heard teachers complain that school administration only care about the state test scores.


That is very true. Down here a school admin was fired because they manipulated the student schedules to somehow keep certain students out of testing. That was done to keep the school testing at a level sufficient to pass state requirements.

Our schools begin to test students for the SOLs, which I always understood to be s--- outta luck, at grade 3. Students in K to 2 do not do homework. My son brings home things called home-links every day. The difference is subtle. If a student does not do a home-link there is no penalty.

What makes our school so successful is that the students have parents that are from the university as graduate students or professors. The kids grow up in an education fostering culture. Nearby are schools which do not have parents that think about education. These schools are not as successful.

I expect to relearn all of the American history, social studies, English, and other subject material I have forgotten over time as my kids go through school. Reviewing all of this interesting material ismy reward for taking on the responsibility of my child's education.
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