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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Scepcop » 08 Aug 2011, 00:23

Craig Browning wrote:Caught this yesterday and loved it! It is far more viable in premise than the original with Roddy McDowel. I really hope they do one thing that the earlier creators of the project didn't do; create at least one other prequel that shows how the virus spreads, affecting humans as well as their traditional pets. . . this was a key factor in the original films; how a virus killed off traditional pets (dogs & cats) and the primates became a natural replacement that ultimately became subjugated to a kind of enslavement. . . I think in this instance that would be more of a "second citizen" sort of thing; apes fighting for their civil rights, right to get married, etc. :roll:

Needless to say, this ultimately leads to an over-all revolt with ape forcing humans into submission 8-)

They would have to hold to the style and feel of this particular film though, that's the only way I can see it working.

But I've always loved the Ape series.


In the original series, the humans destroyed themselves through nuclear war. Charleton Heston discovered this at the end of the original film when he went to the beach and found the head of the Statue of Liberty. Remember?

This prequel is a reboot, meaning it's a relaunch of the series, so it does not have to follow the storyline of the original series.

Also, in the second movie of the original series, they end up destroying the world with a nuclear rocket. It was really stupid, but Charleton Heston didn't want any more films in the series, so he opted to have the world blow up.
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby ProfWag » 08 Aug 2011, 00:25

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ProfWag wrote:I'm going to see it in a couple hours and I'll let you know.


We just saw the movie today. It was awesome. The CGI apes were incredible. You would never notice that they were CGI unless you knew. And the way the apes outsmarted and outmaneuvered the squad of policemen on the Golden Gate Bridge was brilliant. I loved how the bad cops were thrown off that bridge. That was awesome. This film was a great revenge for all the disappointing endings in the King Kong movies. Finally the beasts get to win. What a feel good movie.

Uhhhhh, maybe you should have put a "spoiler alert" before telling everyone the ending in case they wanted to see the movie themselves, Scepcop.
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Arouet » 08 Aug 2011, 00:32

Scepcop wrote:I saw that. It was horrible and pointless. The ending made no sense either. How did Harry Potter survive such a fall? And why are all the characters so ugly and weird?


Pointless? It's a fantasy story. Did you think it was supposed to be realistic? Weird characters is what harry potter is about. Sounds like you haven't read the books or seen the previous movies!
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Scepcop » 08 Aug 2011, 01:09

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Scepcop wrote:I saw that. It was horrible and pointless. The ending made no sense either. How did Harry Potter survive such a fall? And why are all the characters so ugly and weird?


Pointless? It's a fantasy story. Did you think it was supposed to be realistic? Weird characters is what harry potter is about. Sounds like you haven't read the books or seen the previous movies!


I've seen all the previous movies but have not read the books. All the previous movies were pointless too. There's no story or objective or plot. The characters have no character or depth. Nothing is moving about it. I didn't say it had to be realistic. The Neverending Story wasn't realistic but it had a lot of meaning and beautiful music and a great plot with something deep to think about.

There are many wonderful fantasy stories. Star Wars was well done and had deep themes and plots and characters. Nothing like that in Harry Potter.

I think Harry Potter was popularized by the media for its Illuminati symbolism. lol
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Scepcop » 08 Aug 2011, 01:12

ProfWag wrote:
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ProfWag wrote:I'm going to see it in a couple hours and I'll let you know.


We just saw the movie today. It was awesome. The CGI apes were incredible. You would never notice that they were CGI unless you knew. And the way the apes outsmarted and outmaneuvered the squad of policemen on the Golden Gate Bridge was brilliant. I loved how the bad cops were thrown off that bridge. That was awesome. This film was a great revenge for all the disappointing endings in the King Kong movies. Finally the beasts get to win. What a feel good movie.


Uhhhhh, maybe you should have put a "spoiler alert" before telling everyone the ending in case they wanted to see the movie themselves, Scepcop.


Well come on now. The movie is called "Rise of the Planet of the Apes". Anyone familiar with the story knows that this film will be about how the apes rise to take over the world. lol. It's obvious from the title, and the fact that this is a prequel to the original series. So anyone knew that the apes would win in this movie.

It's the same with the Star Wars prequels. You knew what the ending would be, that the Empire would win and take over, but that didn't spoil it for you did it?
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby ProfWag » 08 Aug 2011, 02:00

Scepcop wrote:Well come on now. The movie is called "Rise of the Planet of the Apes". Anyone familiar with the story knows that this film will be about how the apes rise to take over the world. lol. It's obvious from the title, and the fact that this is a prequel to the original series. So anyone knew that the apes would win in this movie.

It's the same with the Star Wars prequels. You knew what the ending would be, that the Empire would win and take over, but that didn't spoil it for you did it?

I tend to disagree, but it's your opinion and your website.
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Arouet » 08 Aug 2011, 03:54

Scepcop wrote:I've seen all the previous movies but have not read the books. All the previous movies were pointless too. There's no story or objective or plot. The characters have no character or depth. Nothing is moving about it. I didn't say it had to be realistic.


The plot is a pretty common theme in fantasy: young hero must defeat evil bad guy. That's the plot. I'm not sure I agree about you about the characters lacking depth - I think we've seen these characters grow up over the years. As for moving, there were a couple moving parts but really, it's an action-adventure movie. You don't complain about Indiana Jones not being moving, right?

The Neverending Story wasn't realistic but it had a lot of meaning and beautiful music and a great plot with something deep to think about.
Don't remember much about that moving except that I really enjoyed it as a kid. But I did enjoy the music in Harry Potter. Even stayed through the credits to hear the closing score.

There are many wonderful fantasy stories. Star Wars was well done and had deep themes and plots and characters. Nothing like that in Harry Potter.


I'll disagree there too. Star Wars is a great, fun, film. But hardly deep.

You don't go to a movie like HP or Star Wars and look for depth. You want fun.

Anyhow, this is all subjective of course, you don't have to like the film, I think you were just looking at it with the wrong criteria.

I think Harry Potter was popularized by the media for its Illuminati symbolism. lol


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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Craig Browning » 08 Aug 2011, 23:38

Harry's a part of the Illuminati? :o

Winston, you really need to get to some 12-step meetings and get off the bad crack. . . at least find a dealer with better quality stuff, the stuff you're smoke'n is really doing a number on your paranoia.

As to Monkey Land. . . as I said, I know the original films quite well as well as the Tv series (even had the lunch box) and went out for Halloween as one of the apes wearing make-up I made based on the original latex methods. . . I'd say I was a bit vested.

The last in that series with the Rocket was STUPID, wish they'd never made it. Then again, I really got tired fast of Heston thinking he was really Moses. . .

If you haven't caught on, ALL movies and 99% of television is a waste of time. . . that's the purpose of it, to waste time. Same goes for games, novels, the funny papers, dessert, vacations and a very long list of other expectations 20th/21st century western culture has gotten addicted to... especially things like Internet Forums, Youtube, Twitter, Face Book and other recently contributed garbage we are all guilty of being involved with and yet, it serves little if any genuine purpose outside of spreading paranoia in one flavor or another, create dividing lines when it comes to politics as well as education & social roles, and worse of all, robbed us from having an actual life in which we intermingle physically with one another and actually get to know who our neighbors are, what they do, who belongs to whom and what's actually happening in town when it comes to development, commerce and politics.

Planet of the Ages was originally about racism in the 60s as well as social reformation and advancing certain facets of analytical thinking believe it or not. Harry Potter, in its own way, accomplishes similar things but most importantly it got a very large number of young people off the theirs, out from in front of the TV or a PC and READING something while allowing their imagination to flow just as kids did a century ago with the Twain stories of Huck & Tom, etc. That's the purpose and in my book, that's not wasting time in any way. It's a blessing that far too many of us take for granted now days, forgetting how many people on the planet are still illiterate and as the end result, being horribly abused.

I'm not a huge fan of CGI -- I love cartoons & good animation but when I go to see a film I want to see Movie Sets, Costumes and ACTING rather than what it's all become; on this we can certainly agree. Yet, I can't imagine what production costs would end up being given the greed now weighting this nation into a grave and what can only be described as one of the more Union Driven industries in the nation. . . outside professional sports I can't think of a greedier, arrogant bunch.
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby NinjaPuppy » 09 Aug 2011, 19:11

Craig wrote:If you haven't caught on, ALL movies and 99% of television is a waste of time. . . that's the purpose of it, to waste time.

No it's not. The purpose is to make money.
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Craig Browning » 09 Aug 2011, 23:19

NinjaPuppy wrote:
Craig wrote:If you haven't caught on, ALL movies and 99% of television is a waste of time. . . that's the purpose of it, to waste time.

No it's not. The purpose is to make money.


Unfortunately, we're both right.
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Eyes Wide Shut - Amazing and Disturbing

Postby Scepcop » 11 Aug 2011, 22:33

I just saw Eyes Wide Shut last night, the film that Stanley Kubrick was allegedly killed for making. And wow, man, I can't believe a film like that was ever released. It was a masterpiece and even at 2 hrs 40 min, it was very gripping. The Illuminati sex magic rituals were intense and scary. And the events that followed were disturbing, as Tom Cruise learns not to mess with the secret affairs of the elite. When you see it, you understand why Stanley Kubric, perhaps the greatest director of all time, was ofted 3 or 4 days after showing it to the executives. What the film shows is just forbidden, plain and simple. After he died, the movie execs edited out the scenes that Kubrick refused to remove, and never allowed any director's cut version to be released.

There is also a lot of nudity and hot female bodies in this movie, so you guys out there should be pleased with that. Regardless of what you think about the Illuminati, this film is a masterpiece and work of art in surrealism, and a must see on those grounds alone.

If you want to watch it, you can go rent it or download it for free from PirateBay.org.

You guys have got to see it. You'll be blown away. Let me know what you think if you see it.

It's also morbidly disturbing at the same time, with many mysteries and unanswered questions that leave it up to the viewer's interpretation.
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Re: Some new highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Scepcop » 11 Aug 2011, 22:59

Arouet wrote:
Scepcop wrote:I've seen all the previous movies but have not read the books. All the previous movies were pointless too. There's no story or objective or plot. The characters have no character or depth. Nothing is moving about it. I didn't say it had to be realistic.


The plot is a pretty common theme in fantasy: young hero must defeat evil bad guy. That's the plot. I'm not sure I agree about you about the characters lacking depth - I think we've seen these characters grow up over the years. As for moving, there were a couple moving parts but really, it's an action-adventure movie. You don't complain about Indiana Jones not being moving, right?

The Neverending Story wasn't realistic but it had a lot of meaning and beautiful music and a great plot with something deep to think about.
Don't remember much about that moving except that I really enjoyed it as a kid. But I did enjoy the music in Harry Potter. Even stayed through the credits to hear the closing score.

There are many wonderful fantasy stories. Star Wars was well done and had deep themes and plots and characters. Nothing like that in Harry Potter.


I'll disagree there too. Star Wars is a great, fun, film. But hardly deep.

You don't go to a movie like HP or Star Wars and look for depth. You want fun.

Anyhow, this is all subjective of course, you don't have to like the film, I think you were just looking at it with the wrong criteria.

I think Harry Potter was popularized by the media for its Illuminati symbolism. lol


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Star Wars was deep. There are many online articles about it that you can read. It has a lot of metaphysical meanings, and Yoda teaches a lot of Buddhism in Empire Strikes Back. George Lucas was a student of Joseph Campbell. All this is well documented.

You can't say the same for Harry Potter.

Books like Harry Potter don't become famous cause they are great or masterpieces. They become famous cause the media chooses to hype them up, for whatever mysterious reason.

You guys need to learn to look deeper. It is said that Tolkien got the story for Lord of the Rings from the secret Vatican library, where he read the true history of Europe.

You can watch Neverending Story in full on YouTube. Then you will see the difference between a truly great fantasy movie vs. a cheap one like Harry Potter. Here is the link:



There's nothing memorable about Harry Potter. It's like cheap fast food, hyped by the media. Everyone who has seen The Wizard of Oz remembers it as a legend and nostalgic masterpiece that touched them. No one remembers Harry Potter in that same way. There's another example.
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Re: Some highly rated movies I recommend

Postby Scepcop » 11 Aug 2011, 23:05

Check out this horror classic "The Shining (1980)" by Stanley Kubrick, perhaps the greatest director of all time. It's based on the Stephen King novel and stars Jack Nicholson and Shelley Duvall. As usual with Kubrick films, there are a lot of unanswered questions and mysteries that are left open to interpretation.

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A family heads to an isolated hotel for the winter where an evil presence influences the father, while his psychic son sees horrific forebodings from the past and of the future. What does it all mean?

Part 1 of 15:

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Inception?

Postby Scepcop » 11 Aug 2011, 23:12

Any of you seen Inception? Was it any good? The reviews say it is a very complex multi-layered story.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/reviews

I never got to see it. So I'll try to check it out.

Here is the trailer by the way.

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The Fountain and The Tree of Life

Postby Scepcop » 22 Aug 2011, 19:02

Check out these films. A lot of people have rated them as 10 star masterpieces!

The Fountain

Spanning over one thousand years, and three parallel stories, The Fountain is a story of love, death, spirituality, and the fragility of our existence in this world.

Look! Everyone on IMDB gave it 10 stars! They said that it's comparable to 2001: A Space Odyssey as perhaps the greatest film ever made!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414993/reviews

Here's the trailer.



The Tree of Life

This unusual film starring Brad Pitt and Sean Penn is supposed to be a weird one that jumps back and forth without following a storyline. What's funny is that everyone on IMDB either gave it 1 star or 10 stars. lol It's like you either totally hate it or worship it as a deep masterpiece. lol Check out the mix of 1 and 10 star reviews below.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478304/reviews

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