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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby ProfWag » 05 Jan 2011, 06:33

NinjaPuppy wrote:
"made of some sort of shark skin material"

Hmmmmm. That would explain the better elasticity but not the matching shine of spandex.

I don't know about the shine and all that, but I do know that I can rest now...
Thanks for everyone's input. You know, this has been the most important discussion on this forum since Scepcop's thread on his Irritable Bowel Syndrome.
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby NinjaPuppy » 05 Jan 2011, 06:36

I don't know about the shine and all that, but I do know that I can rest now...
Thanks for everyone's input. You know, this has been the most important discussion on this forum since Scepcop's thread on his Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

Yeah, but did you watch the video???

It must be important, you should see how many 'guests' have been following this particular thread. :lol:
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby Arouet » 05 Jan 2011, 07:06

NinjaPuppy wrote:Arouet - Is that YOU?


Nawww, I'm not that sexy!
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby ProfWag » 05 Jan 2011, 18:32

NinjaPuppy wrote:Yeah, but did you watch the video???

It must be important, you should see how many 'guests' have been following this particular thread. :lol:


Of course I watched it. I even paused from time to time to soak it all in...
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby caniswalensis » 06 Jan 2011, 01:14

I have to wonder: if the existence of beautiful, talented, virtuous people prove the existence of a god, what does the existence of ugly, talentless & twisted people tell us about the nature of that god?

It would seem to indicate a capricious nature that enjoys blighting some people with no consideration for the comfort and happiness of his creations.

Not that I consider her the pinicle of creation, but if a god created ONJ, I give him an F-. He could have made the whole world like her. Instead he put us in a terrible, dangerous world, most of which is not habitable by us and then he filled it with crappy, hateful & dangerous people.

In the end though, it is to my thinking a bit ridiculous to look to a person's good qualities as being an argument for the existence of a god.

While ONJ is undeniably beautiful, talented, & gracious, she did not come right of the box like that. I am sure it took years of practice to achieve her level of singing skill. When you watch her sublime music video, remember that there was a a whole crew of people intently focused on making her appear as good as possible. Every aspect of those videos were intently scrutinized and directed towards the goal of presenting you with an angelic visage.

When you try to say that "god did it" you rob ONJ and the many people that worked very hard for her of the rightful credit for their efforts. Oh, and don't forget her parents. i am sure they had something to do with it. ;)

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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby ProfWag » 06 Jan 2011, 01:27

caniswalensis wrote:I have to wonder: if the existence of beautiful, talented, virtuous people prove the existence of a god, what does the existence of ugly, talentless & twisted people tell us about the nature of that god?

That's why God gave us beer (I think it was Ben Franklin who said something like that...)
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby Arouet » 06 Jan 2011, 01:37

caniswalensis wrote:I have to wonder: if the existence of beautiful, talented, virtuous people prove the existence of a god, what does the existence of ugly, talentless & twisted people tell us about the nature of that god?


Everyone knows that God is only responsible for the good things in this world and the bad things are all because of man's fallen nature. Did you grow up under a rock or something?
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Jan 2011, 02:07

Arouet wrote:Did you grow up under a rock or something?

OMG! You made me spew iced tea all over my monitor!!! Thanks for my laugh of the day.
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Jan 2011, 02:08

caniswalensis wrote:I have to wonder: if the existence of beautiful, talented, virtuous people prove the existence of a god, what does the existence of ugly, talentless & twisted people tell us about the nature of that god?

It would seem to indicate a capricious nature that enjoys blighting some people with no consideration for the comfort and happiness of his creations.

Not that I consider her the pinicle of creation, but if a god created ONJ, I give him an F-. He could have made the whole world like her. Instead he put us in a terrible, dangerous world, most of which is not habitable by us and then he filled it with crappy, hateful & dangerous people.

In the end though, it is to my thinking a bit ridiculous to look to a person's good qualities as being an argument for the existence of a god.

While ONJ is undeniably beautiful, talented, & gracious, she did not come right of the box like that. I am sure it took years of practice to achieve her level of singing skill. When you watch her sublime music video, remember that there was a a whole crew of people intently focused on making her appear as good as possible. Every aspect of those videos were intently scrutinized and directed towards the goal of presenting you with an angelic visage.

When you try to say that "god did it" you rob ONJ and the many people that worked very hard for her of the rightful credit for their efforts. Oh, and don't forget her parents. i am sure they had something to do with it. ;)

Regards, Canis

Now that I've wiped off my laptop.... excellent post Canis!
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby Arouet » 06 Jan 2011, 02:22

NinjaPuppy wrote:
Arouet wrote:Did you grow up under a rock or something?

OMG! You made me spew iced tea all over my monitor!!! Thanks for my laugh of the day.


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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby JennyJones » 02 Nov 2011, 19:43

Wonderful song
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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby chadkevin » 17 Nov 2011, 15:39

Love This Song of OLJ

"Find A Little Faith"
(with Cliff Richard)

Well every night there comes a time
when we're put to the test
and though our hearts are weary
we must turn the ride to rest.

And though at times it seems that we
will never make it through
when you're ready to give up
the strength will come to you

[refrain]

And you'll find a little faith
in the darkest hour
when your hope is on the guard
you're gonna feel the power
if you take a little time
for one last breath
you'll find a little faith
waiting in there.

It's hard to find a reason
for the suffereing and pain
even those with hearts of gold
cannot escape the rain.

Maybe it's the only way

A heart can truly grow
to reach so deep inside ourselves
we find a miracle.

And you'll find a little faith
in the darkest hour
when your hope is on the guard
you're gonna feel the power
if you take a little time
for one last breath
you'll find a little faith
waiting in there.

So don't let it go
when your back is to the wall
thought it seems that all is lost
impossible
heaven knows that even angels fall
someone out there loves you
stir it up
put it up
hold it out . . .


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Re: Amazing singer - Proof of God's existence? :)

Postby Craig Browning » 17 Nov 2011, 22:46

Hmmm... God = Beauty?

Let's consider that the majority of the world's most dangerous animals, plants, etc. are all considered pretty/beautiful things. . .

Let's look at how soulless the "Pretty People" (a.k.a. the 1%) tend to be when it comes to their inhumanity and willingness to do more than a tokens worth of charity. . .

Look at the corruption within the Big Money "Pretty People" world (in other words, watch DALLAS, DYNASTY and all those other classics that launched today's "Bad Girl" and "Jersey Shore" ignorance). See how duplistic and cut-throat the world of Pretty & "Talented" is or just how everyone was shocked to find an amazing voice hiding in the body of some rather butt ugly individuals the past few years.

Personally I've found that the less carnally appealing sorts; the humble and meek that thrive in life without all the "stuff" and who aren't fixated on the veneer, are far more "godly" and "pure" than all the pretty people out there. I think you'll find that the primary teachers of the spiritual world actually taught that carnal beauty and status rarely (if ever) indicates a genuine connection with the divine. Jesus and to some extent Buddha both taught against a glorified clergy and grand temples, more or less promoting the "God" resides within us and has nothing to do with our "appearance"

My encouragement would to read and gain a better understanding of the Beatitudes (the opening verses leading to the famed Sermon of the Mount). That handful of verses will tell you more about what is "divine" in god's mind -- what it views as good and beautiful. Nowhere do you find a description of J-Lo or Brad Pitt, etc.

I so look forward to the day that human beings actually learn what their scriptures say vs. buying into what they are told to perceive and accept.
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