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Are college fraternities a junior secret society?

Postby Scepcop » 01 Aug 2010, 06:19

I have a question.

In college, when I took marketing courses, I noticed that there was a professional marketing fraternity called Pi Sigma Epsilon that recruited marketing students aspiring to be marketing professionals.

They had secret handshakes and used candles in dark rooms in their initiation ceremonies, which looked occult-like.

I never understood why all that was necessary for a professional organization that helps you in the corporate world? Why the occult like scenes?

So I was wondering, since Michael Tsarion claims that occult symbols are used in advertising and the media as forms of social mind control and manipulation, are these professional fraternities a kind of junior secret society?

If so, if you get high up in Pi Sigma Epsilon, do you then get initiated into a higher level where they teach you these Illuminati symbols that are used in advertising, so you can carry out the Illuminati's agenda in the mass media?

How does it all connect? Is Pi Sigma Epsilon just a front to screen people out to qualify to get into the "advertising illuminati"?

Any idea?
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Re: Are college fraternities a junior secret society?

Postby Craig Browning » 01 Aug 2010, 23:29

The "value" of a college education and why it is so important to get into the "best" colleges, centers on the Fraternity NOT the education factor. Even if you are a D-average student, if you belong to the right good ole boy's club YOU WILL SUCCEED in life and unless you do something really outrageous, you'll be pretty much protected when it comes to reputation and any possible "legal" retribution a soured victim of your antics might bring about.

I've believed for many years that we go to college to learn & develop two key things; the aforementioned connections/networks and skill in how to creative lie and prove your lies as being fact. I've seen this latter element become more and more glaringly real with each passing year, especially given the abuse we've seen towards the public by lawyers and advertisers over the past 30 years... and it's escalating!

What makes the "Lie" factor even more potent is how it works within the good ole boy structure... as the members of each group help reinforce the lies told by their fellows. A prime example of this is how there is so much resistance when it comes to "correcting" known translation errors within the bible, as well as the inclusion of texts that seem to older and even referenced by the authors of the existing tome. Such isn't just a form of creative censorship, it is a means by which to usurp a more honest understanding of what was actually taught in the day, vs. what we are being lead to believe in the present.

School books of the post World War America teach that Christopher Columbus "discovered" the continent when books from the 1800s and early 1900s give credit to the Vikings and in fact, there is an extensive sense of documentation supporting the fact that trade routes existed via the Scandinavian courses of travel, in which goods from the Americas (specifically, New England, eastern Canada/Nova Scotia) were brought into Europe... including Maze/corn... all, more than a couple of centuries BEFORE the Conquering... gold seeking Italian. Columbus actually used navigation charts showing the North American mainland, that were drawn no less than 60 years prior to his journey (the original charts currently on display in some well known museum in Portugal, whose name escapes me now... it has a large Columbus display however).

The point is, Academia isn't interested in "the facts" as much as it's interested in supporting a given course of environment as well as familial influence. Even the entertainment industry is plagued by this course of thinking. Ignoring the nepotism that's so apparent take a look at who and what has the strongest sense of presence and their connection ;)
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Re: Are college fraternities a junior secret society?

Postby Scepcop » 02 Aug 2010, 02:17

Why would the establishment want to lie about who discovered America? What good would it do to perpetuate the Columbus myth? Why do they care?

So what are the fraternities for? Why can't the students just make it on good grades and work ethic alone?
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Re: Are college fraternities a junior secret society?

Postby ProfWag » 02 Aug 2010, 04:25

In reality, Columbus only discovered the Bahamas, but thank God he did! Not sure why the older textbooks tell of the Vikings rather than Columbus. I totally agree with the Leif Erickson story though and am quite sure he came here long before Columbus. The mainland Europeans have/had much more influence on America than the Norweigeans. Perhaps it's more glamorous in the textbooks that Columbus did, perhaps it was some inaccurate archeology from the early 20th Century, or perhaps it is because of the New World Order. Will we ever know? ;-)
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Re: Are college fraternities a junior secret society?

Postby Craig Browning » 02 Aug 2010, 22:44

The person that pointed this out to me said it had to do with Politics following WWI... as to what that means is outside my understanding. I've just found it interesting.

Western Europeans did impact things... mass murder and the conquering of several nations, usurping land (including sacred lands) and forcing the indigenous people into slavery while robbing them of their traditions, language and religion and that's before we get into the rape of the land for it's various minerals...
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Re: Are college fraternities a junior secret society?

Postby Twain Shakespeare » 04 Aug 2010, 09:06

Leaving aside fraternities and going to the Columbus issue, I notice the the pre-WW II era was one in which individuals in a free society built entire communities with minimal help ,and I am accustomed to thinking of them as part of a northern folk-moot common law tradition that includes the Vikings.

Poul Anderson called this cultural complex PIG (People indigenous to Germania) culture. Since WW II, whatever the people have been doing, the media has been pushing a point of view in which nothing is accomplished without massive government intervention and a PT Barnum style publicity blitz to explain what they are doing (that they are looking for WMDs and have no concern about oil, for example) much like the Columbus event as compared to the Vikings

I won't say what Anderson called this complex, because I wouldn't call my worst enemy that.

By the way, I am A PIG, and a Jew, etc. "I am large, I contain multitudes!"
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Re: Are college fraternities a junior secret society?

Postby Craig Browning » 04 Aug 2010, 23:18

Twain Shakespeare wrote:Leaving aside fraternities and going to the Columbus issue, I notice the the pre-WW II era was one in which individuals in a free society built entire communities with minimal help ,and I am accustomed to thinking of them as part of a northern folk-moot common law tradition that includes the Vikings.

Poul Anderson called this cultural complex PIG (People indigenous to Germania) culture. Since WW II, whatever the people have been doing, the media has been pushing a point of view in which nothing is accomplished without massive government intervention and a PT Barnum style publicity blitz to explain what they are doing (that they are looking for WMDs and have no concern about oil, for example) much like the Columbus event as compared to the Vikings

I won't say what Anderson called this complex, because I wouldn't call my worst enemy that.

By the way, I am A PIG, and a Jew, etc. "I am large, I contain multitudes!"


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Good One!

Some of the more "paranoid" in the world would say that the "downfall" of modern society started with the American Revolution... each great war seems to reveal very pronounced changes in the social-political views of a society or, in the case of WWII, the world. We might be able to chalk this up to some kind of unique psychological impact the "trauma" had on society which, in this particular instance, resulted in an "assembly line" type formula in which growth and expansion, over-seen by the government and its various corporate partners, became the accepted "norm"... after all, the 50s was said to be the perfect America... Father Knows Best, etc, etc. Everything was out of House & Garden and we all loved Ike... at least, this is the media depiction of that era, not necessarily the reality. BUT... given that the idea existed we find a psychological sort of social programming of two generations at the very same instant; those that survived the war years and their off-spring. The benefits gained being applauded by a third, older generation that stands amazed by the many conveniences and advances the nation has seen and thus, they beat a drum of patriotic pride whilst willingly placing blinders on... that's why the corruption (actually started with the latter months of WWII) was never seen; the deals brokered with various NAZI leaders, scientists, etc. and of course, the later games that came to bear during Vietnam and the increase of drug issues in the Industrial aspects of the world population.

Mental Conditioning is one of the oldest and more cruel tactics used when it comes to the act of "governing" society. Though we are each subjected to this stage of conditioning during our younger years it is when we enter early adult life that we are exposed to those ideas that lure us to move along one of several acceptable paths or (the gods forbid) a path that challenges the ways of the status quo. To thwart such bad behavior however, we have the delusion of higher education and how the good ole boy (and gal) networks are structured for the sole sake of keeping the "free thinkers" (including those theorists that promote things like UFOs, Vortex Centers, Psychics and any number of metaphysically themed off shoots). These "superior" beings are able to subdue such thinking, even when it is sustained by a pedigreed and papered individual of similar scholastic & social standing, and paint anyone that falls into said niche as a buffoon, idiot, fool, etc. And of course, no one wants to fit that sort of mold e.g. we move along like the rest of the cows, doing what the herders wish us to do.
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