Ok... so when someone attempts to bring things into a "discussion" on ID you don't want to follow that course but rather turn it back around on a personal attack of Winston, right?
I don't get why this is so important to you... why it must be turned into a drama queen's tirade... nor can I understand why you keep insinuating Christian support while likewise trying to distance ID from it's conception source (American Fundamentalists).
As a "Theory" it has very little legit or "complete" science attached to it. It dances completely around the whole dinosaur eras, trying to imply that Adam, Eve and the kids walked around with Dino and Rex... something we know for fact to be untrue... let alone how much bigger Noah's ark would have to be if he had to move those giants around back in the day... but then the bible NEVER mentions such animals, it refers to the very sort of critters we have known in "recent" history; nothing as abstract as giant lizards... which don't come back into the world until the dark & middle ages as christian knights go out murdering perfectly innocent dragons...
... once they're gone they start burning and brutalizing every woman with a broomstick...
when I was a kid it was anyone with a complexion darker than the Irish and now days it's anyone that is predisposed towards homosexuality and/or sexual identity confusions. Long story short, it's a cult of hatred and bigotry that uses said bias or arguments of contention, as a means as to misdirect the public's attention so as to keep folks from discovering the true ugliness of said establishment.
and yes, I loathe ALL forms of Organized Religion but I'm not anti-Jesus or Mohamed, etc. It's their follows that scare the blank out of me.
So here we are, you want to get a discussion on ID going... go post it! That simple... there is no need in insulting or challenging the founder of the forum or anyone else here. Nor is there a reason for trying to twist and turn things in order to keep folks off the actual track tied to ID and its weaknesses/fallacies. It is a joke on one hand and as I said, a cruel bit of cunning on the other when it comes to programming the innocent mind to buy into at 1,7050ish year old mythos that's been sold as fact until the early and mid-20th century, when science kicked it in the shins rather sharply, giving the world a serious wake-up call.