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Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby yellowlawn » 03 Dec 2009, 21:50

I beleive there is an organisation of this sort, I don't believe they have control over society that is implied. I do believe there are many other similar and waring factions out there with a similar agenda and of a similar ilk. If they are so powerful judging by what's going on in the world they are doing a pretty p*&^ poor job of it.

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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby Nostradamus » 04 Dec 2009, 03:49

There are all sorts of warring factions out there and they tend to make their names known so that they can collect money or whatever. These types of organizations may be secretive, but are not unknown: Somalian pirates, war lords in various countries, tribal leaders, mob leaders, ...

I think the fact that things are as turbulent as they are indicates a lack of united leadership.
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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby brett » 04 Dec 2009, 18:39

oh they are real alright - Illuminati, bilderburgers etc - the top tier of corruption and power hungry people in the world - Somalian pirates ?? - small fry , so long as they don't interfere with the big boys ,they get left alone , put it this way , if you or I became a threat to the ones at the top - we would soon "disappear" - but thankfully being at the very bottom of the pile of society - ( being a nonentity has advantages ) we are considered "mostly harmless " - ;) - or is that "powerless " ??
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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby Nostradamus » 04 Dec 2009, 23:36

The Somalian pirates have been able to harass shipping for years now. Why don't they just disappear?

The only reason I can see for the pirates to be allowed to survive is the need to combat global warming. The great noodler knows that pirate numbers are inversely proportional to global temperatures.
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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 05 Dec 2009, 04:45

Nostradamus wrote:The only reason I can see for the pirates to be allowed to survive is the need to combat global warming. The great noodler knows that pirate numbers are inversely proportional to global temperatures.


AAARRRRRRRRR Matey! The pirate numbers be a growin' faster than ye think. We don't be all from Somalia, ye know.
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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby yellowlawn » 05 Dec 2009, 19:53

The thing with the Illimunati is they have so much internet coverage for an organisation with no actual provable evidence of members, lodge meetings, actual agenda etc. Unlike for example Freemasons. I don't believe for one minute one person who is head of and one organisation can run the world.
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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby Nostradamus » 05 Dec 2009, 21:26

Ever seen the movie Star Wreck? You download it free online. It's a scifi movie made in an apartment in Finland. It is a spoof of Star Trek complete with amazing battles in space and huge fleets of spaceships. The idea is that one person wants to be the ruler of earth.

In the spirit of this forum here is a video, the trailer to the movie:


In the spoof you'll see the word twist refer to warp speed, twinklers instead of phasers, and the character Data becomes Info.
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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby Craig Browning » 21 Feb 2010, 21:32

NinjaPuppy wrote:
The only reason I can see for the pirates to be allowed to survive is the need to combat global warming. The great noodler knows that pirate numbers are inversely proportional to global temperatures.


AAARRRRRRRRR Matey! The pirate numbers be a growin' faster than ye think. We don't be all from , ye know.



:lol: Yea... some of the better ones wear three piece suits and work on Wall Street :lol:

When posing this question we need to first ask which flavor of the Illuminati is being spoken of?

The conspiracy nuts and weekend researchers have given us a few tons of tripe to go with the facts of things that need be weeded from the picture before you can see what's really what. The short version to it all is to say Yes, it exists but NO, it's not what all the wackos want to make it out as. Let me go a step further...

Look at the philosophic/theologic background a high number of the Illuminati conspiracy theorists clings to -- bible thump'n redneck Christians that both, dread but want to come about. They need this sinister group to exist so that a logical course of flow exists to nurture and "make" their "Anti-Christ" -- the single man (the actual spawn of Satan) who will create a , one world church, one and of course give us 7 years of peace followed by 7 years of horrific war that will culminate with JC showing up with Elijah on a chariot in the sky as Gabriel plays the trumpet, etc, etc.

Then you have the Gnostic side of this fence; those that see "The Church" (all faces thereof) as evil because it suppressed the original Gospels so as to create a man-made Religion that was a profit bearing para-military & political machine via which its officers could govern over the masses as either the power behind a throne or the source that incited revolt against a given monarch... but then there were more than a few monarchs that turned the tables on said group, killing off church leaders until they got "their man" in the right position(s)... King Philip the Fair of France being one such entity, let alone the antics of the Borgia family. But the Gnostic element has its own agenda -- Restoration of "The Truth"

This is where we get the whole "Holy Blood/Holy Grail" connection along side the famed mysteries of the Knights Templar, Free Masonry, etc. and while a silver thread does seem to weave all these things together in a very believable (dare I say, viable) manner, it is still an extremist theory that lends power to the same kind of philosophic expression... though, if those supporting this path uphold the tenets and examples given by the Knights of old, said arrogance would not be in play. That is to say, the whole Christian flavoring would be nixed to a high level so as to make room for ALL world religious views, which is what the original Knights Templar are said to have observed and who they managed to establish positive commerce and co-governance with former foes.

Other contingencies on the whole Illuminati fantasy bring in all our Extra-Terrestrial friends of course, as well as the survivors of Atlantis & Lemuria who've managed to survive an eon under water... :roll:

So as I said at the start... which flavor of Illuminati are we talking about? :lol:

Now here's one other little point to consider... if these people have and do control everything... doing so for thousands of years now via the same family bloodlines, who are we to think that there's a snowball's chance in hell of breaking them up? For that matter, who are we to say that they are evil or to the contrary, the protectors of the Jesus lineage?

Why does it matter? :roll:
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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby Kevin Kane » 22 Feb 2010, 00:19

What should be distinguished is the difference between Business/NGO/special interest "think tanks", which is all they really are, and many of them do exists .. and brotherhood/social/government groups such as the Freemasons. Overlapping interests and memberships exists, but difference too. If you've ever been to DC or Alexandria, the freemason presence is obvious. In NYC, I used to work near Richard Nixon's apartment, across the street from where David Rockefeller and the Trilateral Commission would hold it's meetings and form global business strategies. Co-operations between governments and big businesses. That's all that it is.
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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby Kevin Kane » 22 Feb 2010, 00:34

Nostradamus wrote:Ever seen the movie Star Wreck? You download it free online. It's a scifi movie made in an apartment in Finland. It is a spoof of Star Trek complete with amazing battles in space and huge fleets of spaceships. The idea is that one person wants to be the ruler of earth.

In the spoof you'll see the word twist refer to warp speed, twinklers instead of phasers, and the character Data becomes Info.


I'm waiting to see their new movie, Iron Sky .. Nazis on the dark side of the moon. Great promo song.

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Re: Illuminati - Real or Fake?

Postby Craig Browning » 23 Feb 2010, 01:23

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for that... priceless! Especially the pigeon at the end
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