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Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby quantumparanormal » 30 Aug 2009, 00:53

The article's writer makes a very good point about the typical information mediums/psychics provide: it's often general and vague that it's subject to subjective interpretation later: http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/090828-jaycee-dugard-psychic.html
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Re: Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby ProfWag » 31 Aug 2009, 21:35

quantumparanormal wrote:The article's writer makes a very good point about the typical information mediums/psychics provide: it's often general and vague that it's subject to subjective interpretation later: http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/090828-jaycee-dugard-psychic.html

Yes, that is a solid article that makes outstanding points. Psychics do so much more harm than good that lawmakers should consider outlawing their use in criminal investigations.
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Re: Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby ciscop » 02 Sep 2009, 12:58

great article
what a bunch of leeches and scumbags
i wonder if "i told her she will be ok" .... 18 years later..
counts like a hit for believers

i saw this commentary on the same link.. kind of funny and sad
I worked for a company that promoted physics, years ago, writing descriptions to draw people to the event. Once you see these characters as they are, not as the public sees them, it doesn't take long before you realize what phonies they are. All of them would make daily calls on how many seats were sold, let me tell you their concern for all those lost souls--MONEY.

Oh, I had to sign a contract not to divulge or work for another company that promoted the same thing for several years after, if I should quit my job. What a joke. Come get me, if you can find me.

We use to joke about each and every one of them. I'll tell you one funny story, a woman kept calling, she had to talk to this certain physic. Had to. They gave me to talk to her because they were tired of dealing with her and they wanted her off the line to take calls from people who wanted us to separate them from their money.

I took the call and this is basically the conversation.

"I want to know if he's coming back."
"I'm not a psychic. I can't help you. But would you like to buy a ticket to see the physic?"
"I want to know if he's coming back."
"I can get you a good seat up front for just seventy-five dollars and for five hundred you can meet her along with others for a brief time before the event."
"I want to know if he's coming back."
"Okay, he's not coming back. He is having an affair with another woman"
"He's in prison."
"He is having an affair with another inmate. He's a homosexual."
"He is?"
"You're so much better than he is. You need to find yourself another man."
"I'm living with his brother and we want to know if he's coming back cause he'll kill us for sure if he finds out."
"Don't worry, he's very happy with Bubba."

That's a true story and guess what my boss wanted to know. "Did she buy a ticket?"

I can't tell you how many people that I knew only briefly or that someone who knew me and wanted tickets for someone else that just had to see whoever it was we were promoting. When I told them that would cost more than their monthly mortgage for a private meeting they would ask if I could ask them their question, even after I told him it's all a gimmick to separate you from your money, they still wanted the ticket or for me to ask the question.

"I can get you a great seat for only a hundred and fifty dollars. Cash or Charge?"
For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby RarelyImpressed » 03 Sep 2009, 05:30

What about the successful physics?
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Re: Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby NinjaPuppy » 03 Sep 2009, 05:39

RarelyImpressed wrote:What about the successful physics?


Successful physics is no problem. Successful psychics is a whole other animal around here.
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Re: Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby quantumparanormal » 03 Sep 2009, 08:24

RarelyImpressed wrote:What about the successful physics?


I'm assuming you meant psychics. I'm not saying there are no "successful" psychics. The problem relates, however, to what "successful" means and whether or not that "success" is applicable towards police investigations. Again, it's a statistics game. We need the numbers to show us whether or not psychics hurt police investigations more than they aid them, or vice versa. So far, I've seen no such data, so I can't make an informed argument for or against psychics being beneficial aids for police. However, I can make an uninformed guess: I'll speculate that they most likely waist the police's time most of the time, versus not.
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Re: Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby ciscop » 03 Sep 2009, 13:29

i know it isnt a peer reviewed study
but... theres an interesting quote from the link offered here

In February 2004, Court TV launched a series about psychic detectives investigating cold cases "Haunting Evidence." The show was cancelled after three seasons, without having solved a single case.


3 seasons
21 episodes so far
and they still havent solved a single case

ooooh.. but wait until those cases are solved (wait sitted)
they will reveal a bunch of things they said earlier

psychics are the biggest douches of the universe
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Re: Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby Eteponge » 03 Sep 2009, 14:50

The problem is that even the best psychic detective cases deals with veridical information given on cases that turns out to be retroactively correct after the case is finally solved, but doesn't directly lead to discovering the body or the murderer, etc. Even if important veridical details given were correct and realized after the fact, and even if the police detectives could have utilized them had they understood them correctly, they didn't and it still didn't solve the crime.
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Re: Jaycee Dugard Abduction Case Highlights Failure of Psychics

Postby ProfWag » 03 Sep 2009, 18:56

If a psychic could tell police exactly where to find a body (alive or dead) or lead them directly to a criminal, then that would be successful. Per the FBI, there has never been one such case. As such, psychics are not helpful and waste valuable police resources and your tax money. Telling the police a body will be found in the woods by a school is not helpful in the least. Telling a family that their child is dead when they are very much alive is criminal.
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