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I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby really? » 13 Oct 2012, 04:13

Intellectually I understand how Winston and people like him see the world. But I have no emotional comprehension how Winston or people like him see the world.
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby NinjaPuppy » 13 Oct 2012, 05:11

You poor baby.

Life is so much better our way. 8-)
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby Craig Browning » 13 Oct 2012, 22:50

While I have a slightly paranoid mind-set based on social-political situations I like to think myself to be a bit more of an optimist/realist and as such, not prone to buy into every freak'n conspiracy that rolls down the hill. I honestly believe there is a psychological imbalance when it comes to people that can find a conspiracy or the devil, as it used to be, beneath every rock they turn. I know for a fact that such people exist in a near constant state of fear and high stress, which is very unhealthy no matter how you slice it.

My mother & father know they are in the "End Times" and though he's over a decade late in doing so, old JC will be dropping down from the clouds any moment now and the Rapture of the Saints will occur. . . followed by the years of tribulation, etc. Then we have my baby brother that's locked into the survivor-militia mode, hiding in the hallars of Pennsylvania and refusing to enroll his actual son, along with the 3 or for kids that belong to his new "mistress" (he's yet to divorce from his legal wife -- wife #3 or 4 I forget which. . . there's a new one for each decade of his adult life, it would seem -- got to love the sanctity of marriage. . . )

I most certainly worry about whack jobs like my brother as well as those wonderfully zealous believers in Christ who would rather shoot their own kid for being gay, than do the mature thing and grow up, learn the facts about such things and give their kid the love and support they need. I've cleaned up too many of those messes. . . including the poor kids that gave up and blew their brains out. I'm concerned about the class warfare situation we are seeing unfold and how some mega wealthy people seek to buy our government and corrupt it at a level never before known. These are real life concerns which are more than enough to deal with. I don't care who shot JFK, RFK, MLK etc. that was decades ago and will not change a single thing in today's reality. While I believe Bush Jr. was given significant warning about 9/11 type strikes that went ignored, I do not and will never believe that there was an inside job involved amongst other things tied to said catastrophe. . . and I'm very certain little green men, the Free Masons and Illuminutty had nothing to do with it or other such situations in the past 150 or so years..

Sure, I find the Free Mason/Illuminati thing a fun topic of research and I can even accept certain elements within said drama, as being based on fact. Nonetheless, at least 95% of what people claim to be "real" is little more than conjecture -- catalysts for high drama cultivated by those looking for "explanations" in the wrong places, for the wrong reasons and with a half-loaded mind when it comes to proper research and listening to the actual experts vs. self-made dumb-asses with a pedigree.

There's so much more in life that one must learn to relish and enjoy, why dwell on the hypothetical and fantastic? Live life as it is in the here & now!
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby SydneyPSIder » 18 Oct 2012, 13:38

Craig Browning wrote:While I have a slightly paranoid mind-set based on social-political situations I like to think myself to be a bit more of an optimist/realist and as such, not prone to buy into every freak'n conspiracy that rolls down the hill. I honestly believe there is a psychological imbalance when it comes to people that can find a conspiracy or the devil, as it used to be, beneath every rock they turn. I know for a fact that such people exist in a near constant state of fear and high stress, which is very unhealthy no matter how you slice it.

My mother & father know they are in the "End Times" and though he's over a decade late in doing so, old JC will be dropping down from the clouds any moment now and the Rapture of the Saints will occur. . . followed by the years of tribulation, etc. Then we have my baby brother that's locked into the survivor-militia mode, hiding in the hallars of Pennsylvania and refusing to enroll his actual son, along with the 3 or for kids that belong to his new "mistress" (he's yet to divorce from his legal wife -- wife #3 or 4 I forget which. . . there's a new one for each decade of his adult life, it would seem -- got to love the sanctity of marriage. . . )

I most certainly worry about whack jobs like my brother as well as those wonderfully zealous believers in Christ who would rather shoot their own kid for being gay, than do the mature thing and grow up, learn the facts about such things and give their kid the love and support they need. I've cleaned up too many of those messes. . . including the poor kids that gave up and blew their brains out. I'm concerned about the class warfare situation we are seeing unfold and how some mega wealthy people seek to buy our government and corrupt it at a level never before known. These are real life concerns which are more than enough to deal with. I don't care who shot JFK, RFK, MLK etc. that was decades ago and will not change a single thing in today's reality. While I believe Bush Jr. was given significant warning about 9/11 type strikes that went ignored, I do not and will never believe that there was an inside job involved amongst other things tied to said catastrophe. . . and I'm very certain little green men, the Free Masons and Illuminutty had nothing to do with it or other such situations in the past 150 or so years..

Sure, I find the Free Mason/Illuminati thing a fun topic of research and I can even accept certain elements within said drama, as being based on fact. Nonetheless, at least 95% of what people claim to be "real" is little more than conjecture -- catalysts for high drama cultivated by those looking for "explanations" in the wrong places, for the wrong reasons and with a half-loaded mind when it comes to proper research and listening to the actual experts vs. self-made dumb-asses with a pedigree.

There's so much more in life that one must learn to relish and enjoy, why dwell on the hypothetical and fantastic? Live life as it is in the here & now!

I agree with 95% of that, and that the elites have initiated a kind of predatory capitalism or kleptocracy or 'control fraud' over the masses, little by little, although in many ways this has been done in the past and more overtly, using a system of hierarchy, rank, entitlement and 'ownership of the means of production' to justify the theft.

The US was founded and expanded partly to escape such oppressive traditions of ownership and entitlement in Europe, allowing ordinary folk to start a new life and possibly acquire some acreage and freedom of their own -- but the last century of US history, or more, has seen the steady appropriation again by the elites of just about everything, creating a new informal 'royalty' whose ownership and power and technical capability far exceeds the wildest dreams of the European aristocracies of yore.

However, the WTC7 collapse event and a lot of suspicious evidence and lack of evidence that should have been at Ground Zero, the Pentagon and Shanksville have convinced me almost beyond the shadow of a doubt that it was not just a 'Let It Happen' event but a 'Make it Happen' event.
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby Misha » 24 Oct 2012, 21:23

really? wrote:Intellectually I understand how Winston and people like him see the world. But I have no emotional comprehension how Winston or people like him see the world.


Hi Guys,

I'm not sure where to put this in the threads. Anyhow, check this article out by Daniel Ellsberg:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/1 ... l-Election
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby SydneyPSIder » 29 Oct 2012, 15:06

For some reason, I think of most pseudosceps as seeing the world through Walter Sobchak's eyes, from The Big Lebowski, and most likely possessing his dress sense as well:

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Hallmarks: Inflexible, rigid, has a limited worldview with satisfying answers that are usually wrong.
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby really? » 29 Oct 2012, 22:12

SydneyPSIder wrote:For some reason, I think of most pseudosceps as seeing the world through Walter Sobchak's eyes, from The Big Lebowski, and most likely possessing his dress sense as well:

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Hallmarks: Inflexible, rigid, has a limited worldview with satisfying answers that are usually wrong.


Like I said just recently to you. Your perception of skeptics is grossly inaccurate.
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby SydneyPSIder » 30 Oct 2012, 08:00

really? wrote:
SydneyPSIder wrote:For some reason, I think of most pseudosceps as seeing the world through Walter Sobchak's eyes, from The Big Lebowski, and most likely possessing his dress sense as well.

Hallmarks: Inflexible, rigid, has a limited worldview with satisfying answers that are usually wrong.


Like I said just recently to you. Your perception of skeptics is grossly inaccurate.

I don't think it is. I think my perception of genuine sceptics AND pseudo-sceptics is spot on. The difference between them is very real.
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby Twain Shakespeare » 31 Oct 2012, 08:48

SydneyPSIder wrote:For some reason, I think of most pseudosceps as seeing the world through Walter Sobchak's eyes, from The Big Lebowski, and most likely possessing his dress sense as well:

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Hallmarks: Inflexible, rigid, has a limited worldview with satisfying answers that are usually wrong.


Hi Sid. You are too knew her to have probably catlogued me yet, but I want to say that, altho I have even less dress sense than Sobchak, I don't think anyone would call me inflexible or rigid. I am more as the ET Jeff Goldberg feared he was being in "Earthgirls are Easy" Am I floppy and hard to handle? You bet! Nor do I think anyone would accuse me of having a limited world viw aside from my pseudoskeptical fascist room mate, who refuses to believe I do not worship Obama's shit! He also says my answeres are UNsatisfying, especially my "Then we die..." scenarios, and he thinks they are usually wrong. It is interesting living with a pseiudoskeptic (fits all your criteria, although he is slightly less handsome than Sobchak) with an IQ of 165.
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Re: I would love to See the World through Winstons Eyes

Postby Twain Shakespeare » 31 Oct 2012, 08:50

SydneyPSIder wrote:For some reason, I think of most pseudosceps as seeing the world through Walter Sobchak's eyes, from The Big Lebowski, and most likely possessing his dress sense as well:

Image

Hallmarks: Inflexible, rigid, has a limited worldview with satisfying answers that are usually wrong.


Hi Sid. You are too knew her to have probably catlogued me yet, but I want to say that, altho I have even less dress sense than Sobchak, I don't think anyone would call me inflexible or rigid. I am more as the ET Jeff Goldberg feared he was being in "Earthgirls are Easy" Am I floppy and hard to handle? You bet! Nor do I think anyone would accuse me of having a limited world viw aside from my pseudoskeptical fascist room mate, who refuses to believe I do not worship Obama's shit! He also says my answeres are UNsatisfying, especially my "Then we die..." scenarios, and he thinks they are usually wrong. It is interesting living with a pseiudoskeptic (fits all your criteria, although he is slightly less handsome than Sobchak) with an IQ of 165.
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