View Active Topics          Latest 100 Topics          View Your Posts          Switch to Mobile



David Mabus Is Getting some Help

Discuss General Topics.

David Mabus Is Getting some Help

Postby really? » 24 Sep 2011, 03:56

Thursday brought news from Montréal, Canada of further action in the “David Mabus” case.

Long-time readers of this site and many other skeptic websites are familiar with this person, who would regularly interject and threaten in the comments below. He drew his nom de plume from the writings of Nostradamus, and targeted James Randi and many other skeptics for endless ire. He’s been at it for some time, you can read Mr. Randi’s posts from three years ago about this character.

Last month his spam and threats (which had accelerated on Twitter) got the attention of the press and the police where he lives in Montréal. The story of how this came about is an interesting case study in online skeptic activism which I documented in detail on my blog. It resulted in his arrest on August 16 and appearance before a judge on a total of 16 charges of making death threats.

Many skeptics assumed a mental illness of some kind was involved in this case. Even his own defense attorney Leonard Waxman said at his August 19 hearing, “Ce n'est pas la personne moyenne qui fait ça. Il ya quelque chose de déséquilibré.” Roughly translated, he says that Mabus is an unusual person indeed, perhaps unbalanced in some way. I’ve always thought it best to leave medical diagnoses to medical professionals, not lawyers or skeptics, so I’ve withheld judgment on this issue.

At the August 19 hearing, the judge ordered a 30-day psychiatric evaluation at the Philippe Pinel Institute before the case could proceed further. Skeptics have been anxiously awaiting the result of this evaluation, not the least because Mr. Randi himself is scheduled to speak in Montréal next week.

On Thursday Stephane Giroux (a journalist covering the case) posted on Twitter that the evaluation is now complete, and Mabus has been referred for further treatment until his next court date on December 2. Giroux elaborated that the diagnosis was of a bipolar disorder exacerbated by alcohol and substance abuse. The further treatment from now until December is substance abuse rehabilitation.

This diagnosis of bipolar disorder does seem consistent with the behavior we’ve observed over the history of the case. Some in the skeptic community criticized the attempt to involve the police last month, pointing out that most forms of mental illness do not correlate with actual violence. However now that we know substance abuse is involved, it is worth noting this Oxford study which supports our decision to treat the threats as serious.

In any case, it is good that skeptic efforts have resulted in “Mabus” getting professional help, and we hope that his treatment plan is a successful one.
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swi ... tment.html
really?
 
Posts: 1011
Joined: 06 Mar 2010, 20:58






Re: David Mabus Is Getting some Help

Postby NinjaPuppy » 25 Sep 2011, 21:34

Really - Thanks for the update.
User avatar
NinjaPuppy
 
Posts: 3948
Joined: 28 Jul 2009, 20:44

Re: David Mabus Is Getting some Help

Postby really? » 25 Sep 2011, 21:39

You're welcome
really?
 
Posts: 1011
Joined: 06 Mar 2010, 20:58

Re: David Mabus Is Getting some Help

Postby craig weiler » 02 Oct 2011, 02:32

Bipolar people are very often psychic as well. It's easy to see someone with problem and substance abuse, going off the deep end by taking it too personally.

The skepticism is, after all, tremendously insulting.
A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not what ships are for.
User avatar
craig weiler
 
Posts: 386
Joined: 03 Sep 2011, 12:08
Location: San Francisco Peninsula

Re: David Mabus Is Getting some Help

Postby NinjaPuppy » 02 Oct 2011, 02:39

craig weiler wrote:Bipolar people are very often psychic as well. It's easy to see someone with problem and substance abuse, going off the deep end by taking it too personally.

The skepticism is, after all, tremendously insulting.

I'd have to say that someone or something with JREF or Randi really pissed Mabus off. I wonder if we will ever get to know the whole story.
User avatar
NinjaPuppy
 
Posts: 3948
Joined: 28 Jul 2009, 20:44

Re: David Mabus Is Getting some Help

Postby craig weiler » 02 Oct 2011, 08:27

Does it really matter? With the kind of bile that comes out of that organization you have a New Year's Day Buffet of insults to choose from.
A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not what ships are for.
User avatar
craig weiler
 
Posts: 386
Joined: 03 Sep 2011, 12:08
Location: San Francisco Peninsula


Re: David Mabus Is Getting some Help

Postby NinjaPuppy » 07 Jun 2012, 06:57

Thanks for the update.

“He sometimes makes remarks that leave us perplexed.”......

Raillant-Clark and Tim Farley, a resident of Atlanta who was threatened by Markuze “for three or four years” said they believe Markuze resumed his anti-atheist postings even before he was sentenced. Waxman said on Friday that he asked Markuze about the allegation and said his client denied it.

“He said he only uses a computer for work,” Waxman said.


So, we may be seeing dear old Mabus again. :lol:
User avatar
NinjaPuppy
 
Posts: 3948
Joined: 28 Jul 2009, 20:44


Return to General Discussions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests