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Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic now with Vid

Postby really? » 03 Mar 2011, 20:58

Last night the tv tabloid show Inside Edition interviewed Portland, Oregon clairvoyant Laurie McQuary. It was wonderful to watch Ms. McQuary reaction. I hope the video interview will be available for viewing soon. But you can read about it.

John and JoAnn Lowitzer have been searching for their 17-year-old daughter Alexandria (Ali) since she vanished in April, 2010.

But when the case made national news, the Houston parents say they became inundated with calls from so-called psychic detectives. They say some even showed up at their front door promising their psychic visions could help bring their daughter home.

http://www.insideedition.com/news/5878/ ... rsons.aspx
In a related matter of scamming Inside Edition also ran a story on the
Power Bracelet this one has video. Dr. Steve Novella is interviewed.
http://www.insideedition.com/videos/842 ... elets.aspx

I'm surprised that such a show has taken a hard and critical look at both of these.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic

Postby ProfWag » 03 Mar 2011, 21:57

And people wonder why I'm so against psychics. People like that just piss me off. When a psychic really solves a case, then I'll sit up and take notice, but until then, my opinion probably won't change.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic

Postby curious » 04 Mar 2011, 00:32

It's not up to psychics to "solve" a case, that's the job of the police. There are, however, a number of stories where psychics have come in on cases and known things they couldn't or shouldn't have known -- the Etta Smith example in the video and film thread would be one of those. If it is genuine, it's an extraordinary example of a psychic aiding in the resolution of a case.

It's a pity that there are so many scammers and know-it-all busybodies out there.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic

Postby really? » 04 Mar 2011, 07:56

Video link now available for viewing.
http://www.insideedition.com/news/5878/ ... rsons.aspx
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic

Postby caniswalensis » 04 Mar 2011, 10:08

curious wrote:It's not up to psychics to "solve" a case, that's the job of the police.


They should not get involved then.

...and the instant that a psychic approaches a person and starts making promises and taking money, then it is their job. The only problem is they never deliver anything but vague guesses.

The end result is that the family gets tortured by these hucksters while the police end up chasing wild geese.

I wonder how many of these psychics would be in business if they were subject to the same sort of ethical code & malpractice penalties that doctors are?

I am ready willing and able to believe in psychic powers, but I say put up or shut up. Unless someone can really demonstrate an ability to be correct above chance, they need to sit down and stop making claims.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic now with

Postby NinjaPuppy » 04 Mar 2011, 17:42

Excellent exposure video.

I'm curious as to if this woman was one of the 'vultures' that contacted the family or if the news reporters just picked her randomly? They don't say how she was chosen or why. I also wonder if she was the first or only person they chose and if they had possibly contacted others who, for whatever reason(s) wouldn't or didn't take the bait.

Now don't think that I'm implying that my thought process here is, 'they didn't pick a good psychic'. I merely would like to know more about the circumstances behind this exposure. I find it odd, since they had the perfect opportunity to do a full blown series on this sort of thing, that they didn't have more of the same examples. We all know that there is a bumper crop of these types out there, so why only highlight one? They really fell short on this particular story, all the way around.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic now with

Postby NinjaPuppy » 04 Mar 2011, 18:33

"There is one primary rule in the fakery of spirit mediumship. That is to concentrate upon persons who have suffered a bereavement." - Joseph Dunninger
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic now with

Postby really? » 04 Mar 2011, 21:58

NinjaPuppy wrote:Excellent exposure video.

I'm curious as to if this woman was one of the 'vultures' that contacted the family or if the news reporters just picked her randomly? They don't say how she was chosen or why. I also wonder if she was the first or only person they chose and if they had possibly contacted others who, for whatever reason(s) wouldn't or didn't take the bait.

Now don't think that I'm implying that my thought process here is, 'they didn't pick a good psychic'. I merely would like to know more about the circumstances behind this exposure. I find it odd, since they had the perfect opportunity to do a full blown series on this sort of thing, that they didn't have more of the same examples. We all know that there is a bumper crop of these types out there, so why only highlight one? They really fell short on this particular story, all the way around.


How do you know they didn't pick a good psychic ? The only way to prove she's not a good psychic is show us what a good psychic looks like. How do we know they [ psychics] are not vultures no matter how well meaning they seem to be.
We probably won't know if the show contacted others.
why only highlight one?
It's only a half hour show.

To the shows credit they did do another exposé on the silly Power Bracelet.
Click on the link to read more about her http://www.lauriemcquary.com/
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic

Postby curious » 06 Mar 2011, 13:56

caniswalensis wrote:
curious wrote:It's not up to psychics to "solve" a case, that's the job of the police.


They should not get involved then.

...and the instant that a psychic approaches a person and starts making promises and taking money, then it is their job. The only problem is they never deliver anything but vague guesses.

The end result is that the family gets tortured by these hucksters while the police end up chasing wild geese.

I wonder how many of these psychics would be in business if they were subject to the same sort of ethical code & malpractice penalties that doctors are?

I am ready willing and able to believe in psychic powers, but I say put up or shut up. Unless someone can really demonstrate an ability to be correct above chance, they need to sit down and stop making claims.

I certainly agree they shouldn't be "ambulance-chasing", so to speak, and there are a number of hucksters out there that make everything worse. That makes it more difficult for those who are ethical in their practices. A code of ethics would be a good idea, if one doesn't already exist.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic

Postby really? » 06 Mar 2011, 21:01

curious wrote:I certainly agree they shouldn't be "ambulance-chasing", so to speak, and there are a number of hucksters out there that make everything worse. That makes it more difficult for those who are ethical in their practices. A code of ethics would be a good idea, if one doesn't already exist.


Ethical [well intentioned] or not they all still offer false hope and that is unethical.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic now with

Postby Craig Browning » 06 Mar 2011, 21:58

I've not yet looked over this material in that I already know what it's going to say -- I'm all too familiar with the bias. Not just the over-all bias of today's elitists minded "Thinkers" (which the production team of this show is lousy with -- no balance whatsoever -- kind of like FOX NEWS)

Where's the reports by these teams, on the psychic revelations that have lead to the resolution of a crime situation?

Don't say they don't exist -- THEY DO! The problem is, law enforcement officials are heavily discouraged to even mention on any official document that a psychic is involved; it's akin to the FAA discouraging pilots to post UFO reports and how NASA tries to force astronauts to not talk about the ET encounters they have (fortunately a few have spoken up though, while in a carefully framed manner). The tradition of side-stepping in this manner is centuries old and stems originally from the Church & Witch Hunting laws, the advent of the Spiritualist movement in the 19th & early 20th centuries revived this kind segregationist thinking; keeping distance "just in case" and in the process, allowing things to become skewed against the mystical.

I have personally helped locate stolen cars (and indirectly, lead authorities to a stolen car ring) and had limited success with psychometric type connection with it comes to missing pets and at least one person (who actually just ran away from home with a new lover).

I may eventually watch the episode (I deliberately changed channels the other night, out of disgust) . . . I'm trying very hard to leave that crap on a shelf far away from me rather than wasting my energy with it (I just get too worked up over the persecution -- being tossed into a negative light because of the actions of a few -- the only one's that get "outed".)

Cops love to go after the soft-targets, rarely going after the real criminals they know are out there; Skeptics are the same way, they will look at the easy (obvious) jokes and "expose" them but most of them haven't the brass to deal with the really dangerous con-artist let alone giving credit where it is due, as Harry Kellar, Houdini and even Joe Dunninger were known to do. "Proof" in my book, that current era skepticism has lost its way. . . its once known cuthe and decorum -- everything is now an "All or Nothing" mind-set which is simply wrong to me; immoral and of questionable ethics when it comes to the every man's world.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic now with

Postby really? » 06 Mar 2011, 23:48

Craig Browning wrote:I've not yet looked over this material in that I already know what it's going to say -- I'm all too familiar with the bias. Not just the over-all bias of today's elitists minded "Thinkers" (which the production team of this show is lousy with -- no balance whatsoever -- kind of like FOX NEWS)

Where's the reports by these teams, on the psychic revelations that have lead to the resolution of a crime situation?

Don't say they don't exist -- THEY DO! The problem is, law enforcement officials are heavily discouraged to even mention on any official document that a psychic is involved; it's akin to the FAA discouraging pilots to post UFO reports and how NASA tries to force astronauts to not talk about the ET encounters they have (fortunately a few have spoken up though, while in a carefully framed manner). The tradition of side-stepping in this manner is centuries old and stems originally from the Church & Witch Hunting laws, the advent of the Spiritualist movement in the 19th & early 20th centuries revived this kind segregationist thinking; keeping distance "just in case" and in the process, allowing things to become skewed against the mystical.

I have personally helped locate stolen cars (and indirectly, lead authorities to a stolen car ring) and had limited success with psychometric type connection with it comes to missing pets and at least one person (who actually just ran away from home with a new lover).

I may eventually watch the episode (I deliberately changed channels the other night, out of disgust) . . . I'm trying very hard to leave that crap on a shelf far away from me rather than wasting my energy with it (I just get too worked up over the persecution -- being tossed into a negative light because of the actions of a few -- the only one's that get "outed".)

Cops love to go after the soft-targets, rarely going after the real criminals they know are out there; Skeptics are the same way, they will look at the easy (obvious) jokes and "expose" them but most of them haven't the brass to deal with the really dangerous con-artist let alone giving credit where it is due, as Harry Kellar, Houdini and even Joe Dunninger were known to do. "Proof" in my book, that current era skepticism has lost its way. . . its once known cuthe and decorum -- everything is now an "All or Nothing" mind-set which is simply wrong to me; immoral and of questionable ethics when it comes to the every man's world.



Craig you strike me as an honest fellow. But you are asking all of us to take what you written truthfully based upon your personal credulity. That is enough for some not all. Can you prove anything you just written ?
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic

Postby curious » 07 Mar 2011, 01:31

really? wrote:
Ethical [well intentioned] or not they all still offer false hope and that is unethical.

I would have to disagree with the universal false hope statement. There are those, however few they may be, who are able to provide legitimate answers. Once again, I'd like to draw your attention to the Etta Smith case on the video and film forum, where they interview her and one of the police officers involved in her incarceration.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic now with

Postby NinjaPuppy » 07 Mar 2011, 04:00

really? wrote:How do you know they didn't pick a good psychic?

Excellent question. The claim was that she had worked on 30 or so cases as a psychic detective. I wonder if anyone kept score? If she had failed as miserably on her previous 30, as she did in this video, I would classify her as a bad psychic.

really? wrote:The only way to prove she's not a good psychic is show us what a good psychic looks like. How do we know they [psychics] are not vultures no matter how well meaning they seem to be.

All vultures are not psychic and I will assume that all psychics are not vultures. I done some reading on mentalists and it seems that many tend to go for people who have grief issues. Now a mentalist is not necessarily a psychic nor a vulture but I'm sure each profession or job category has it's share of riff-raff.


ninjapuppy wrote:why only highlight one?

really? wrote:It's only a half hour show.

The investigation could have taken weeks if they wanted to and of course we will not know if they interviewed anyone who either caught on or wouldn't do anything due to the circumstances. I'm not saying that I need more proof, I'm saying that what they did was one excellent test and more should have been done.
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Re: Inside Edition Exposes Missing Persons Psychic

Postby really? » 07 Mar 2011, 07:40

curious wrote:
really? wrote:
Ethical [well intentioned] or not they all still offer false hope and that is unethical.

I would have to disagree with the universal false hope statement. There are those, however few they may be, who are able to provide legitimate answers. Once again, I'd like to draw your attention to the Etta Smith case on the video and film forum, where they interview her and one of the police officers involved in her incarceration.


Do you know I've heard this argument for over 30 years, but can you provide one case where a person claiming psychic abilities provided direct evidence that lead to solving the crime. By direct I mean go to this spot and you'll find the body of... Now I've just done a quick read through of Etta Smith and I can't find one impartial site on the matter of if she provided direct information that solved the crime. How do you know the officer that backed up her isn't retrofitting ? Now I see a lot of sites that say just what you've said. In spite of what people wish to be true that in no way makes something true.
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