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An *Investigative* Testing Protocol

Postby G. ADAM » 26 Feb 2011, 10:49

While Ninja is away I'll sneak in a NEW TOPIC! :)

The Skeptics so called paranormal competitions for prize money all use
a contractual protocol. CSICOP 'offer' to view paranormal demos but then
they back out by saying it must be more than a rudimentary demo and must
show objective results and end up using the contractual protocol all over again.

CONTRACTUAL PROTOCOL

Given expected hit ratio, expected average, calculate number of trials to defeat 1,000,000:1
Do fixed number of trials and grant PASS if ODDS BROKEN > 1,000,000:1


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What should be going on, and only takes a few trials to check is this:


INVESTIGATIVE PROTOCOL


REPEAT
-Demo run of 1 trial.
-Make changes to protocol (if necessary due to new testing environment)
UNTIL THE CLAIMANT IS SATISFIED WITH THE PROTOCOL


WHILE (hit ratio > (expected average + minimum bias))
OR (trials < minimum trials)
REPEAT another trial, tally ODDS until 1,000,000:1 is broken.


Basically you get a few trials for the paranormal bias to exceed the
minimum bias, and tally the ODDS. There is a minor adjustment to the
ODDS calculation because the start trial and end trial will both be
hits so you have to compensate for cherry picking the sample segment,
not a practical issue as the paranormal bias is still evidently repeatable.


No powers? By the law of averages the average hit ratio will drop below the
expected average + min. bias. pretty quickly.
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Re: An *Investigative* Testing Protocol

Postby Arouet » 26 Feb 2011, 19:56

Forget about the MDC: what you are talking about is parapsychology - the scientific testing of psi claims. G. Adam, have you ever read any actual parapsychological papers? Or even summaries of them? Not one would ever proceed even remotely as you have suggested. Especially on an exploratory study. You might want to read up on them.
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Re: An *Investigative* Testing Protocol

Postby G. ADAM » 26 Feb 2011, 23:18

a shame none of these professional parapsychologists thought to iinvestigate alt.paranormal or sci.skeptic for the last 10 years!

none of them reply to emails either!

do you know how many REAL parapsychologists there are really?

clue: look in the mirror
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Re: An *Investigative* Testing Protocol

Postby Arouet » 27 Feb 2011, 07:03

G. ADAM wrote:a shame none of these professional parapsychologists thought to iinvestigate alt.paranormal or sci.skeptic for the last 10 years!

none of them reply to emails either!


G. Adam, if both skeptics and proponents are rejecting you, perhaps there is a lesson in there for your attitude and approach? You come across agressively, and don't take suggestion very well, even from people who are trying to help you. You come across as rude and brash. You might find that people respond to you better if you were a tad more polite.
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Re: An *Investigative* Testing Protocol

Postby Craig Browning » 28 Feb 2011, 01:57

Yep, G. Adam has managed to tick me off with his silliness as well, and I'm someone known to standing in the middle of it all.

I really think we have someone that just likes to stir the stuff and create drama, in our midst. He's not after any kind of validation outside of ego-stroking.
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Re: An *Investigative* Testing Protocol

Postby G. ADAM » 28 Feb 2011, 11:37

is this over when you asked for a clear description and I gave a demo MD5 with 30 digits,

then you used 10 digits and when I mentioned it you blasted me for not giving a concise description?

Or am I mixing up names again. Anyway, posts purely for the ad hom of putting other posters down are dissallowed.

If you think I'm not being civil when applying to all these hundreds of parapscyhology professionals out there think again.

Send a claim to randi@randi.org.

When he says you are deluded, try to explain the claim and watch his 2nd email go off the rails.

Atleast he replies! He's the only one who does!
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