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Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby NucleicAcid » 20 Apr 2010, 09:09

I am not sure if this is paranormal or just physics. However, I don't really care because it is BAD ASS.

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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby ciscop » 20 Apr 2010, 16:04

thats cool
thx for sharing
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby Craig Browning » 20 Apr 2010, 20:27

I could barely make things out but it looks similar to a chi demonstration I've seen done with nails and a board... quite interesting.
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby Nostradamus » 20 Apr 2010, 21:02

It's really hard to make out. I don't see that the object is sticking through the seat until the cut to the close up.

I don't see the difference between this and the magic trick my dad used to show us where he pushed a stick into one side of his head and pulled it out the other.

You can't see under the seat when the stick is being "pushed down".

You have to notice that a stick pushed into another piece of wood seems to be very easy to remove in that last second of video. Every try to pull a nail with your fingers?
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby ciscop » 20 Apr 2010, 23:41

it reminded me the pencil trick of the joker in the dark knight
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby NucleicAcid » 21 Apr 2010, 02:48

There is another video, I think it's the same guy, in which he definitely embeds the chop stick in a table, then karate chops the end off. It's in there pretty solidly.
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby Nostradamus » 21 Apr 2010, 03:35

I bet I could do the following for a video.
1. Drill a hole in a wooden board
2. Fill the hole with toothpaste
3. Paint over the hole
4. Push a stick into the hole
5. snap off the stick

or maybe replace steps 1 to 3 by drilling from the back side with a Forstner drill till the tip appeared. Then you know where to push.
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby NinjaPuppy » 21 Apr 2010, 03:48

I'm sorry to say that I thought the same thing about an obscure, pre-drilled hole. It wasn't the best video either.
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby NucleicAcid » 21 Apr 2010, 03:58

Sure, anything's possible.

Here's another video, with several stunts by this guy. Might be magic tricks, but I think the chopstick one is just neat physics. Ever put a straw through a potato?



Again, that's why I titled this thread what I did. I'm not hugely convinced myself. But it looks wicked cool. Do you guys go to magic shows and go, "That's just a magic trick, lame!"
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby ciscop » 21 Apr 2010, 04:19

not sure it is even possible to put a chopstick thru wood

anyway.. being fake or not
i like it
is pretty cool
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby NucleicAcid » 21 Apr 2010, 09:24

Like, mechanically it's totally possible. You could do it with a decent spudgun. Whether that can be done with PHYSICAL strength, that's a trickier question.
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby ciscop » 21 Apr 2010, 09:40

yeah.. i think you can do it with a nail and stuff
but a chopstick would break (that´s what i would think..) but who knows

asian martial artists (which is kind of redundant)
are quite impressive.. they do train a lifetime to pull off stunts like that one

there´s a chinese magician (which has nothing to do with martial artists i know)
that only does one trick.. he produces bowls of fishes.. all his routine consists in producing fishes..
i think that´s awesome
training a lifetime for a single routine.. i love the idea of it. just one single trick..
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby jakesteele » 10 May 2010, 07:41

ciscop wrote:not sure it is even possible to put a chopstick thru wood

anyway.. being fake or not
i like it
is pretty cool



A chopstick or a piece of straw can be driven into wood without breaking it. It’s not uncommon to see it in hurricanes and tornados. I always liken this Phenomena to a guy pulling out the table cloth from underneath the plates, glasses, forks, etc. It looks way cool, it can be done legitimately, however, a hurricane and a human are way different. The chopstick through a table is probably another matter.
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby Craig Browning » 10 May 2010, 20:37

Nostradamus wrote:I bet I could do the following for a video.
1. Drill a hole in a wooden board
2. Fill the hole with toothpaste
3. Paint over the hole
4. Push a stick into the hole
5. snap off the stick

or maybe replace steps 1 to 3 by drilling from the back side with a Forstner drill till the tip appeared. Then you know where to push.


:roll: Again... developing a way by which to replicate something doesn't mean you've explained it... I so wish the "skeptical" would stop trying to manipulate public perception by way of such suggestion, it's nearly as bad as what the so-called charlatans out there are doing when they prey on the public. Either explain it or don't, but stop trying to reinvent the bloody wheel :roll:

ON THE OTHER HAND... that's not exactly how I'd replicate the bit; I'd use a bee's wax filler or a good quality wood putty so you wouldn't have to paint the thing to cover the patch :mrgreen:

Then again, I did help develop both, the Torch and Water penetration illusions based off of Ken Whitaker's Impalement effect... maybe I could come up with something a bit better :lol:
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Re: Dunno if this is paranormal or not...

Postby ProfWag » 10 May 2010, 20:44

Craig Browning wrote:
Nostradamus wrote:I bet I could do the following for a video.
1. Drill a hole in a wooden board
2. Fill the hole with toothpaste
3. Paint over the hole
4. Push a stick into the hole
5. snap off the stick

or maybe replace steps 1 to 3 by drilling from the back side with a Forstner drill till the tip appeared. Then you know where to push.


:roll: Again... developing a way by which to replicate something doesn't mean you've explained it... I so wish the "skeptical" would stop trying to manipulate public perception by way of such suggestion, it's nearly as bad as what the so-called charlatans out there are doing when they prey on the public. Either explain it or don't, but stop trying to reinvent the bloody wheel :roll:
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You're right Craig, replicating something doesn't necessarily mean it's been explained, but it does suggest that the proper protocols for a paranormal event wasn't fulfilled. If someone were to do something that couldn't be done by a "trick," then we'd be on to something.
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