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Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Mar 2010, 01:46

That's exactly what I've been telling you. These are the probabilities for the payoff. What you claimed in the OP is a comparison to JREF computed odds which are completely unrelated. Furthermore, the probabilities as supplied in the email state: "six independent predictions". I don't believe that your protocol has met that condition.
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Mar 2010, 02:27

I glanced down through the Lesser and Glickman article and it is easy to read. You might want to pay particular attention to section 2.3
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby The Professor » 03 Mar 2010, 02:49

I agree with Glickman !!!!
He's the expert.
So you agree with him then too?"
You agree that the Thought Dial result would only happen 14 out or 10,000 times?
Yes or no?
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Mar 2010, 02:56

You did not post the question you posed to Glickman. All you posted was an answer. An answer to what?

There is a difference between Glickman computations and what you did.

The answer is no. You did not meet the requirements dictated by the math.

What did you do meet the requirements of the math?
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby The Professor » 03 Mar 2010, 03:09

So Glickman is lying about this then? Is that what you are claiming?

First you said it was 50/50 ... The 64 to 1 ... Then 128 to 1 and now you agree or disagree with the experts ...
It's obvious to all which direction you are headed :)

And everyone who participated .. They lied too?
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Mar 2010, 03:17

So Glickman is lying about this then? Is that what you are claiming?

Only a fool draws that conclusion.

There is a difference between Glickman computations and what you did.

This is what I said.

It clearly states that you and no one else failed to meet the requirements of the math. You failed.

Is that a little clearer?
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby ProfWag » 03 Mar 2010, 03:40

I took a poll in Canada last Saturday evening of 10,000,000 people on who would win the USA vs Canada Olympic Hockey game. All 10,000,000 people picked Canada to win even though they were an underdog. Wow, what incredible odds and that astrologer dude who came up with that dial must be briliant! Okay, now take this example and compare it to yours. As such, emotional odds cannot be counted and your experiment, thus, has faulty logic applied to it. Sorry Dave.
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby The Professor » 03 Mar 2010, 03:55

ProfWag wrote:I took a poll in Canada last Saturday evening of 10,000,000 people on who would win the USA vs Canada Olympic Hockey game. All 10,000,000 people picked Canada to win even though they were an underdog. Wow, what incredible odds and that astrologer dude who came up with that dial must be briliant! Okay, now take this example and compare it to yours. As such, emotional odds cannot be counted and your experiment, thus, has faulty logic applied to it. Sorry Dave.


Did they all use Paranormal means? Did they all use the Thought Dial?

The obvious answer is NO and your lack of logic is now evident for all to see :)

100% of the people who used the Thought Dial came up with the same answer. This is NOT the case in your invented Smoke Screen.

Man you guys are really reaching :)

At the end of the day ... SEVEN OUT OF SEVEN PEOPLE USING PARANORMAL MEANS OF DIVINATION PICKED THE WINNER OF THE SUPER BOWL BEFORE THE GAME !!!!

It was all documented for all to see!
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby ProfWag » 03 Mar 2010, 03:57

The Professor wrote:
ProfWag wrote:I took a poll in Canada last Saturday evening of 10,000,000 people on who would win the USA vs Canada Olympic Hockey game. All 10,000,000 people picked Canada to win even though they were an underdog. Wow, what incredible odds and that astrologer dude who came up with that dial must be briliant! Okay, now take this example and compare it to yours. As such, emotional odds cannot be counted and your experiment, thus, has faulty logic applied to it. Sorry Dave.


Did they all use Paranormal means? Did they all use the Thought Dial?

The obvious answer is NO and your lack of logic is now evident for all to see :)

100% of the people who used the Thought Dial came up with the same answer. This is NOT the case in your invented Smoke Screen.

Man you guys are really reaching :)

At the end of the day ... SEVEN OUT OF SEVEN PEOPLE USING PARANORMAL MEANS OF DIVINATION PICKED THE WINNER OF THE SUPER BOWL BEFORE THE GAME !!!!

It was all documented for all to see!

Where was this documented? Proof was not in the thread at magictalk that I saw.
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby The Professor » 03 Mar 2010, 04:24

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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Mar 2010, 04:40

ProfWag I noticed that you asked a pertinent question and did not receive the answer. I asked several pertinent questions and received no answers.

Did they all use Paranormal means? Did they all use the Thought Dial?

Why would they have all have to do something that is yet to be proven and which you used in what is laughingly called an experiment that you obviously botched?

You botched the experiment. You botched it.
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby ProfWag » 03 Mar 2010, 05:14

The Professor wrote:radioesp.com

Thanks, but no thanks. I won't involve myself with false advertising to promote your radio show, put on by magicians disguised to look like psychics. Just ain't gonna do it Dave.
I do think you guys could be extremely talented, just wish you'd stick with magic rather than promote yourselves as something you're not.
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby ciscop » 03 Mar 2010, 06:22

some guys
just cant be magicians
they gotta push and claim they are more
the sad part, is must of them are unskilled nor talented enought to be a magician

an overweight hawaian t-shirt guy that smells like vodka
hahahaha hardly a psychic..
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby The Professor » 03 Mar 2010, 10:34

The experiment was 100% and that's what shakes the Psedo-Skeptics to their cores. Their closed minds can't see the truth. It rattles everything they believe in .. So they deny it.

The Thought Dial predicted the Super Bowl and that's a Fact Jack !!!!!!

All published BEFORE the game !!!!!!!

(And so did psychic Ginnette Lucas!)

As far as me being a mentalist .. everyone know that! I won the HOUDINI AWARD last year and I'll get another great award this year I believe.
It's no secret I'm a Mentalist. I'm on the radio all the time.

This experiment was part of The Divination Project which experiments with all forms of Paranormal methods.
It has nothing to do with Magic or Mentalism. (Although the owner of a Magic shop did volunteer)
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Mar 2010, 11:05

Your wild enthusiasm over a failed experimental protocol illustrates what a sap you are.

Your failure to answer even trivial question about your protocol tells me that your results are no better than the flip of a coin.

I'm smelling a fraud here. Yup, it's a simple case of fraud. And you didn't think we'd figure it out.
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