stevetrueblue wrote:The moon lifts oceans, and we are water thus may be influenced in some imperceptible way.
Sorry, but science does not agree with this statement.
Since when? Every science book I've even seen as well as films on the topic of tides says that the moon creates the ebb and flow. when did that change?
I'll go a step further in what stevetrublue says... the blood of human beings is almost exactly the same chemical make-up of sea/ocean water and too, the rhythm of the ocean seems to be in near exact harmony with a resting human heart, something Shaman have known for eons and countless cultures exploited in their various rituals in which drumming and other percussion type sound is manipulated. The whole Tibetan Bowl healing technique is based on this as are most forms of chanting, but then we are moving into the issue of "sound" and "harmonics" that couldn't have anything to do with Astrological Influences, right?
Let's see... every single planet, star, etc. have a frequency. Science has proven this as it has likewise proven that "sound" (for lack of a better term) is a form of physical energy and thus, it MUST create some kind of end phenomena
The term "Songs of the Heavenly Hosts" is metaphoric when it comes to the reality behind it, but one must understand the precepts behind the Kabalah and its references to catch it; each planet is assigned a "sigil" as well as specific "Angels" (human qualities) and even days of the week, times of the year when it is most influential on the earth and its inhabitants. These esoteric applications were based on CENTURIES of study, observation, as well as silly things like experimentation, peer reviews, etc. In fact, until the 17th and 18th centuries, there was little to no division within science when it came to the planets, terms of affect, etc. and even today those same principles are used even though the two aspects of star study were intentionally divided about 200 years back.
Getting back to the whole "Choir of Angels" point... well, this correlative summary should reveal that the ancients were referring to the sounds made by the planets at different times of the year and when certain alignments took place. Even now, if you could get far removed from all the modern-tech trappings and in the middle of nowhere at night, you can discern the unique sounds of our world and the universe... something shepherds and nomads have spoken of for mellennia along side countless explorers, sailors and the occasional scientist of old, brave enough to step outside society for a moment.
Given this rather extended legacy in which physical energy can be found expressing itself as a transmission by way of the planets & stars and that this is something our more remote ancestors were aware of and defined over the course of several centuries, then it stands to reason that some kind of common manifestation was discovered to exist -- a physical correlation between specific alignments way out there in space and the people, places and things here on earth. The problem is, skeptics want their cake and eat it too. They want to say that the gravity of Jupiter and its signal can't affect life on this planet and yet, in nearly the same breath, they will explain how each planet's energy, orbit and gravitational force works in much the way the cogs of a huge machine function... a symbiotic-like correspondence that prevents our solar system and that of all the others out their, from being anything other than chaos... and according to a recent article on the Science Channel, even those distant systems that are light years away, seem to affect other systems in ways quite similar to how clouds pull one another together and break apart.
Ok... pardon my inability to be more "to the point here" but with all this evidence and the antiquity tied to Astrology as well as the deeper, lesser known esoteric meanings behind certain exoteric
terms... well, it would seem that "science" (a.k.a. the cynically inclined) are missing sight of the big elephant in the middle of the room... "Something" is there! It was understood by less technically advanced cultures way before we became "life" but we've become so arrogant with our "intellect" that we refuse to accept that those folks... our distant ancestors... weren't as ignorant or stupid as we keep wanting them to be. Much of the reason they didn't evolve on the social-technological level centers on a handful of situations, the deliberate suppression of science by certain massive cults being one.
Mysticism speaks of the "Keys to Enlightenment"... an especially Gnostic idea that can be found in most all mystical traditions, but being a term used by Gnostics is what makes it so important; the gnostics almost always spoke in a kind of dual-reality. Those who did not know or understand the Gnostic/Mystic "language" would perceive an entirely different, though related idea than those "initiated" into the mysteries. In this case the "Keys" related to specific modes of discipline and understanding -- "Science". Traditionally there are 7 such keys but each hey plays host to 7 other keys so it can prove rather daunting. The point is however, one finds enlightenment via education and expansion of knowledge... which is the first step only. The important second step, is experiencing life from that knowledge so as to obtain "wisdom"... something modern science seems to have sat to the side.
I've rambles sufficiently... I just hope I'm making some sense. It's hard to connect all the dots in such limited space.