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Re: Why I think astrology is false

Postby ProfWag » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:05 am

Don wrote:
This is the typical comment of a debunker, not a person who follows the scientific method.

He has come to a conclusion which he admits is based on nothing. No study. No training. No practice, No nothing.

He refuses to study anything on the subject.

And yet, he has come to the conclusion that the myth he has invented as to what astrology is supposed to be must work the way it works in his fantasy, or it is false.

In fact, ProfWag is absolutely correct. In his fantasy of what astrology is supposed to be, in his fantasy based on nothing but his imagination, the astrology he has invented doesn't work.

Right now, he is like Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass who says that "When I use a word ...it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less." So it doesn't matter whether or not your meaning has any basis in real astrology. You can set up your straw man on your flat earth and believe that you've proven that astrology is false.

In fact, all you've proven is that you don't understand logic, that you are an example of bad science, and you are so dedicated to your religion of scientism that you don't care that you're harming the very scientific inquiry into reality you claim to admire.

Yes, yes, yes Don. Clearly on topic and adds much to the discussion as to why people should or should not think astrology is false. :roll: Sarcasm intentional.
As I've stated previously, I have nothing to do with the scientific community other than using them as references in research which I have done on at least two occasions in this thread and other references in other threads that you don't care to comment on.
You know Don, for someone who claims and claims that he doesn't know if astrology is true or not, you sure are rude to those that don't believe in it, yet appear supportive of those who do. Things that make me go "hmmmmm."
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Re: Why I think astrology is false

Postby ciscop » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:29 pm



this is a nice video
from richard dawkins Enemies of reason

is kind of funny
i bet don will get mad at it
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Re: Why I think astrology is false

Postby Kevin Kane » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:24 am

I watched the Dawkins video and laughed at how silly it is. Dawkins set out to falsify results, and achieved what he set out to do. What he doesn't take into account in his non-scientific experiment is the intent of himself and his testers, and the general affability of people to accommodate someone who is intent on doing something (in a friendly manner).

I could do a similar test with people on the street, saying things like: Einstein's favorite color was blue. Do you think the color blue makes people smarter?

Why yes, come to think of it. I do think that.

PS: searching .. Einstein's favorite color was maybe yellow or red.


And the other problem I have with the experiemnt is the ethics of defrauding people for science, to prove a point or further an agenda.
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Re: Why I think astrology is false

Postby ciscop » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:36 pm

Kevin Kane wrote:I watched the Dawkins video and laughed at how silly it is. Dawkins set out to falsify results, and achieved what he set out to do. What he doesn't take into account in his non-scientific experiment is the intent of himself and his testers, and the general affability of people to accommodate someone who is intent on doing something (in a friendly manner).

I could do a similar test with people on the street, saying things like: Einstein's favorite color was blue. Do you think the color blue makes people smarter?

Why yes, come to think of it. I do think that.

PS: searching .. Einstein's favorite color was maybe yellow or red.


And the other problem I have with the experiemnt is the ethics of defrauding people for science, to prove a point or further an agenda.


yet you dont have a saying whether astrology is bunk or is not?

see? you only attack skeptics
because they burst your lunatic bubble you live into
you dont like that

even if a skeptic says something like purple unicorns arent real you will try to disprove it with whatever dumb argument
that´s a bad way of entering a debate
you are not discussing the point.
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Re: Why I think astrology is false

Postby Don » Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:17 am

ciscop wrote:

this is a nice video
from richard dawkins Enemies of reason

is kind of funny
i bet don will get mad at it



No, I feel sorry for people who do idiotic things and think they're doing something important, logical, or scientific. I feel disappointed and saddened at people who are so set in their dogma that they'll cling to illogic rather than actually investigate something.

Getting mad is a waste of time.
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