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Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Azrael » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:03 pm

NinjaPuppy wrote:Azrael - I know that being banned from this forum wouldn't bother you at all but please, no name calling. I removed the comment.


Please dont tug at my heart strings. I shall desist from such behaviour. :)
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby NinjaPuppy » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:10 pm

Thank you and :lol: at your comment.
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby ciscop » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:48 am

shouldnt this thread be renamed to
Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 1 to 1 odds?
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Azrael » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:57 am

The Professor wrote: *edit*
5) Dowser, Ginnette Lucas, was asked to join in on The Dark Truth Radio Show ( radioesp.com ). She used her dowsing techniques to determine that The Saints would win.

This all happened and was documented BEFORE the game started.

The Dark Truth Radio Show host Jim Callahan has put up $20,000.00 to guarantee the authenticity of the experiment.


Something not right here. Superbowl was Feb 5th(UK time) Dark Truth radio show was Feb 15th so how did Ginette Lucas dowse anything in connection with Superbowl? I know psychics love to post dict(is that a word?) But really backing a claim up with a complete fabrication is just silly.
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Nostradamus » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:37 pm

What's interesting here Azrael is that the Professor refuses to answer simple questions that have been posted. This should be easy to clear up, but don't hold your breath waiting for an answer.
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Azrael » Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:09 pm

Nostradamus wrote:What's interesting here Azrael is that the Professor refuses to answer simple questions that have been posted. This should be easy to clear up, but don't hold your breath waiting for an answer.


Well he is currently posting on magic talk forum,usual nonsense that Randi lied to him or about him. Ive lost track of the times he has been asked to prove that statement,never mind the hundreds of other nonsense statements. Seems you got him beat Nostradamus.

Give Randi credit he sure gets 'em talking!! :D
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby ciscop » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:25 pm

the professor hasnt come here in a while
the beauty of TiVo is that he gets to see Barney 24/7
which keeps him busy
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Azrael » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:24 pm

Over at Magic Talk forum (only place he gets to post stuff unchallenged generally as its made up of all his buddies)Dave is crowing about Mysteries magazine apaprently running an article about the Thoght dial test. They seem to have overlooked th eobvious,and the fact hundreds predict lottery numbers(a much harder task) every week! But then I guess rational thinking isn't high on their agenda. :P
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Azrael » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:04 pm

I emailed the genuiine professor of maths and statistics at Boston Mark Glickman(who The Professor claimed to have gotten such incredible odds) and asked him the obvious question: WHat are the odds of 5 people(as thats what Dave started his claim with)independently picking The COlts to win superbowl.His reply thus:

If you're asking what is the probability that 5 people picking independently would correctly pick the Colts as the winner, then it's
(2/3)*(2/3)*(2/3)*(2/3)*(2/3) which is about 13.2%, assuming the probability the Colts would win is 2/3 (which it was roughly for the Superbowl). You can replace the 2/3 with 1/2 if you prefer to view the probability of a win as equal for both teams.


Just to clairfy:
You can replace the 2/3 with 1/2 if you prefer to view the probability of a win as equal for both teams


Hmmm 1/2 isnt that 50/50? :D
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Re: Thought Dial Dowsing Successful against 2,187 to 1 Odds !!!!

Postby Nostradamus » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:45 pm

I notice that in Glickman's statement that the odds computed are for independent probabilities. I though that the test involved everyone openly announcing their decisions over a period of time. That's not independent. The multiplication formula only applies if one probability does not affect another probability. That's what independent means.
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