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The Case for Reptilians in Human History

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The Case for Reptilians in Human History

Postby Scepcop » Sun May 01, 2011 9:19 am

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Though the notion of intelligent Reptilians manipulating humanity and genetically engineering the creation of humans seems far fetched, ridiculous and the stuff of sci fi, there are in fact some interesting lines of evidence that point to this hypothesis. Thus I think it should be something to consider, or at least an alternative way of looking at things. A true skeptic lives in a world of possibilities, not in one of dogmatic rigidity and limitations, and also questions everything.

Here are some interesting lines of evidence that David Icke and others presents.

- Every ancient culture has stories of dragons, serpents or reptiles creating humans or living alongside them - The "Chitauri" in Africa, the dragons that gave the Chinese Emperors their bloodline, the serpent in the Genesis book of the Bible, India, etc.
- Many eyewitnesses around the world have reported seeing Reptilian shapeshifters. They have come forth to David Icke and others about it. In fact, Christine Fitzpatrick, a close confidante of Princess Diana, said that Diana told her once that the Royal Family was not really human.
- Humans have a part of the brain called the "R-complex" which is considered Reptilian. It controls our flight or fight response, regulates aggressive behavior, and responds to fear and hierarchy. Even mainstream scientists like the great Carl Sagan admitted in his book "Dragons of Eden" that the physiological case for reptilians in our ancestry is overwhelming and inexplicable.

Check out these videos about it:

Reptilians walk among us? (A good intro to the Reptilian case)



Plausible Points for the Reptilian Case 2/22 - Describes reptilian legends throughout history and across cultures.



Plausible Points for the Reptilian Case 3/22



Plausible Points for the Reptilian Case 4/22 - Compares human anatomy to reptilians and discusses how mainstream scientists like the great Carl Sagan mentioned in his book "Dragons of Eden" that the evidence for our reptilian ancestry and origins is overwhelming and inexplicable.



Summary and Video about Credo Mutwa, the African Shaman and friend of David Icke who was given secret knowledge about the Reptilians that have ruled the world.

http://whatisthepyramid.com/tag/chitauri/
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby ProfWag » Mon May 02, 2011 12:41 pm

There are also plausible points that humans came from a different ancestry line and science seems to point a different direction than the words of David Icke.
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby Craig Browning » Mon May 02, 2011 1:21 pm

Don't you find it appropriate that his last name is "Ickie"? :lol:

EW!

I've had fun looking over some of his stuff and for someone that's ignorant of certain truths and realities and can certainly see how easy it would be to buy into his rhetoric and conjecture, he is the Eric Von Danigan of our present era but on steroids! Head guru of the Conspiracy Cult in so many ways. But most certainly a guy that is cashing in on people's dark fantasies and general paranoia and doing so in nearly the same exact way as all the TV Evangelists do. . .he's just not selling "hope" just the fear angle, promoting paranoia from which those evangelic types gain support (a very interesting co-symbiont relationship).

My 72 year old mother, one of the poster women for the evangelic-right/republican patriot, is constantly looking at how current events are all sign-posts that the day of judgment is at hand. . . again. :roll: In my lifetime I've heard this same clap-trap over and over and over with the turning of each decade and every time an Arab burped. There are even groups that are selling granite & marble blocks to help rebuild Solomon's Temple; a wonderful tax loop-hole in that it is all by donation (don't you just love how much money can be had via Non-Profit?)

Ickie is just another jackass out to con a fear-filled society by manipulating facts, injecting a ton of assumption under the heading of "logic" and/or "common sense" while not allowing the more concrete facts clutter the delusion being sold. Sadly, his kind are plentiful as are those that buy into their suppositions.

Are there aliens amongst us?

Perhaps, I don't believe they are trying to infiltrate our governments and society and I even question the idea that they are hiding amongst us as part of some kind of government arrangement and yet, there could be refugees of some kind here from another time or place -- COULD BE, which is a very far cry from any kind of verifiable fact that they are and I simply don't believe they or any government body would wish to keep such things overly covert; it would be far too impractical all the way around though plausibly understandable given the religious zealotism in the land and its related bigotry (we all know that ET is a devil worshiping savage, right? . . . just like the Natives of Hawaii, the Americas and every other land conquered by "The church"/White-Man).

Maybe they need protecting and we need time to catch-up with them when it comes to processing things, technology and understanding "life" in general. . . MAYBE. I could buy into that idea but not the idea that my Iguana has cousins wearing people suits, sorry.
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby Scepcop » Tue May 03, 2011 1:58 am

Icke does not "cash in". He lives in a simple one bedroom flat with one bed. He lives very simply. Since he speaks to sold out crowds, he could make a lot of money if he wanted to. But he doesn't for some reason.

Whether right or not, he is genuine and on a truth frequency.

You guys should watch some of the videos above. Even Carl Sagan, a mainstream scientists that skeptics love, said that the evidence for our reptilian ancestry is overwhelming. See his book "Dragons of Eden".
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby Arouet » Tue May 03, 2011 4:28 am

Scepcop wrote: Even Carl Sagan, a mainstream scientists that skeptics love, said that the evidence for our reptilian ancestry is overwhelming. See his book "Dragons of Eden".


OMG Scepcop, you can't possibly believe that what Sagan was talking about is what Icke is talking about. Really dude...
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby Craig Browning » Tue May 03, 2011 4:02 pm

Scepcop wrote:Icke does not "cash in". He lives in a simple one bedroom flat with one bed. He lives very simply. Since he speaks to sold out crowds, he could make a lot of money if he wanted to. But he doesn't for some reason.

Whether right or not, he is genuine and on a truth frequency.

You guys should watch some of the videos above. Even Carl Sagan, a mainstream scientists that skeptics love, said that the evidence for our reptilian ancestry is overwhelming. See his book "Dragons of Eden".


And Mother Theresa lived in poverty while conning people out of millions. . .

I have an uncle that died a few years ago, an honest to god minister. . . he took no salary outside a congregation supported home, food and insurance for his family needs and of course, a new car here and there. . . and the disability claims he was collecting on from two different states, the various estates he managed to have the near-death patrons of his church sign over to him as a means by which to "further the mission" and a long, ling list of other covert income generating schemes that were never "known of" in any public manner. This is a man that could make anyone believe he was the real thing -- a devoted disciples -- all the while he's sell his own mother for the sake of a buck. Then there's my other Uncle, a former hit-man/insurance adjuster for the Italian Businessman's Association of South Chicago turn Evangelist. He used his ministry to launder dirty money for the mob while likewise expanding his ministry off the cash generated through various sex clubs, strip joints and whatever back of room cash-flow they generated without any "official" knowledge. This is another "man of god" that was so filled with faith that anyone outside the family and those few trusted souls nearest him, would buy into 110% and yet, he always packed heat, had a sawed off shot gun mounted beneath his pulpit and several other habits common to the typical gangster. . . he had multiple Satellite Tv networks broadcasting his regular Ministry shows as well.

Non-Profit, especially when guised under the headings of Religion or "Education" are huge money-filters and loop-holes exploited by the fast-talker both, in the more legit side of business & life as well as those less honorable, so don't deceive yourself by buying into the illusion people like Icke want you to see vs. what's behind the scenes.

Every con-man knows that you must live the story -- create the illusion -- in order to be believable and gain empathy from your marks. They understand the value of misdirection and carefully worded manipulation in that it brings about the real goal -- donations, people buying your books, paying to attend your lectures, etc, etc, etc. Hell, I teach a lot of this to up-start Mentalists that wish to work from the older philosophic angles of the art in which you market yourself as "the real deal" (kind of. . . there are some seriously split hairs involved -- as Stephan Minch put it, "We live with one foot set upon the stage and the other knee deep in the world of the charlatan." (paraphrased)
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby ProfWag » Tue May 03, 2011 7:05 pm

Scepcop wrote:Icke does not "cash in". He lives in a simple one bedroom flat with one bed. He lives very simply. Since he speaks to sold out crowds, he could make a lot of money if he wanted to. But he doesn't for some reason.

Whether right or not, he is genuine and on a truth frequency.

You guys should watch some of the videos above. Even Carl Sagan, a mainstream scientists that skeptics love, said that the evidence for our reptilian ancestry is overwhelming. See his book "Dragons of Eden".

Scepcop,
Please check out this website showing pictures of icke at his home. You're able to see only very little, but pay particular attention to the size of the house through the window in image 5/10. I'm not sure I will agree with your "one bedroom flat with one bed" comment.
http://jackcutting.photoshelter.com/gal ... JwbGe18.4w
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby Craig Browning » Wed May 04, 2011 5:19 pm

Images 7-9 seem to show a different, quite "formal" and "comfortable" room hosting a bit of golden opulence and that old world image of "success" but let's ignore the living environment, look at the clothing. . . pay attention to how he dresses, what he wears and how old it seems (as in the age of the clothing not style trends of an era). When a person claiming to live meagerly wears a $50.00+ shirt with $100.00 slacks I'm betting he's not shopping at Wal-Mart for the lower middle-class deals such as the $10-20.00 shirts and under $30.00 pants. . . and that's just what the typical middle-class person with traditional life responsibilities tends to wear and they tend to not keep such wardrobes "new" -- they wear things out simply because they can't afford or can't justify the investment based on personal budget constraints (trust me on this, I have shirts and jeans that are well more than 5 years old. Not even close to how I lived when working steadily).

The other thing one must weigh in the case of Ickie, is that he wants to be seen as a scholar -- an "expert" that has a sense of genuine integrity. It is only natural that he'd surround himself with the type of possessions and "labels" that would emphasize this idea be it lots of books & book-cases to how he presents himself in public. In this particular case he's taking on the casual nerd aspects seen in our IT world gurus at Mircrosoft and Apple/Mac while "privately' echoing that old world element (which you will find being done by most of today's more public success stories, like those noted above). The problem when it comes to Ickie is that he lack any kind of genuine endorsement from within the scholastic and scientific communities, even other conspiracy theorists tend to skirt around him because he's so questionable, controversial and overt.

Here's a real litmus test for Winston to try however, see what it will cost to bring him in to your area for a seminar or lecture. In the world of professional speaking $3,000.00 -- $6,000.00 + expenses is considered "low end" -- said speakers rarely have riders tied to the contract unless they have legit special needs such as dietary and access issues or in some instances, mode of transport (for example there are several noted personalities that cannot fly and insist on trains, bus and in some instances, ship. Others' tied in with the whole Green thing, insist on using only environmentally friendly vehicles). So a huge tattle-tale for the ego type tends to be found in the rider. I remember a fund-raiser I was working on back in the early 80's and one of the requisites for hiring Grace Jones was that we had to cover the transport of her 15 member entourage in addition to her and the band and the $100,000.00 performance fee... needless to say, she wasn't brought in given her (and her management's) inability to understand the idea behind a FUND-RAISER let alone, reality . . . then again, who knows who Grace Jones is that didn't grow-up in the 80s'?

:twisted: as I think about this challenge for Winston, I can't help but ponder these things my self. Not just when it comes to Ickie but several other personalities in the world both, supportive of the far-out and surreal as well as the detractors thereof. :roll:
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby really? » Wed May 04, 2011 8:06 pm

ProfWag wrote:
Scepcop wrote:Icke does not "cash in". He lives in a simple one bedroom flat with one bed. He lives very simply. Since he speaks to sold out crowds, he could make a lot of money if he wanted to. But he doesn't for some reason.

Whether right or not, he is genuine and on a truth frequency.

You guys should watch some of the videos above. Even Carl Sagan, a mainstream scientists that skeptics love, said that the evidence for our reptilian ancestry is overwhelming. See his book "Dragons of Eden".

Scepcop,
Please check out this website showing pictures of icke at his home. You're able to see only very little, but pay particular attention to the size of the house through the window in image 5/10. I'm not sure I will agree with your "one bedroom flat with one bed" comment.
http://jackcutting.photoshelter.com/gal ... JwbGe18.4w


Since scepcop can believe icke's outlandish claims of reptile people the he can also believe icke has a one bedroom flat which is orders of magnitude easier to believe. I would imagine scepcop arrives at this realization because icke is an unassuming fellow.
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby Craig Browning » Thu May 05, 2011 5:14 pm

I'd nearly forgotten one point to Winston's credit on the whole Gecko to human thing (damn, I wish we kept those neat feet during the transformation :evil: )

There is a series of embryonic phases we ape-men pass through that is lizard-like and in some instances, results in children being born with an actual "tail". . . don't laugh, two of my three step-children were born with this condition, the tail was removed shortly after birth but they must be very aware of things because specific infections can happen that are unique to the condition itself. My eldest boy Shane, nearly died from such an episode some years ago.

As it was explained to me the fetus actually passes through a micro-version of the evolutionary process; the small blob that comes to life and turns into a tadpole, then an amphibian/lizard and then of course, it begin to mutate towards ape shape and by the mid-point of the second-trimester, begins to resemble something human. . . in my experience they really don't become "human" until sometime 20-30 years after physical conception, my Yiddish friends claiming that this is when life actually begins and therefore a child can be aborted anytime prior to that stage in life.
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby Arouet » Thu May 05, 2011 6:21 pm

Yes, and there is the whole reptile brain thing too. That's fine, we have evolved from a common ancestor of modern repitles, and we share some biology. That is fine and what Sagan was talking about. Not that there are multidimensial alien lizards that put on human skin and have taken over the world!
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Reptilian connection to the Hollow Earth

Postby Scepcop » Fri May 06, 2011 2:12 pm

Here in parts 8 and 9 of the Reptilian Case film, it talks about the Reptilian connection to the Hollow Earth Theory. Very fascinating and mind-blowing stuff.



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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human History

Postby Craig Browning » Fri May 06, 2011 2:19 pm

It's as if he can't read or understand what's been said :roll:
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human Ancestry

Postby Scepcop » Fri May 06, 2011 2:49 pm

ProfWag wrote:
Scepcop wrote:Icke does not "cash in". He lives in a simple one bedroom flat with one bed. He lives very simply. Since he speaks to sold out crowds, he could make a lot of money if he wanted to. But he doesn't for some reason.

Whether right or not, he is genuine and on a truth frequency.

You guys should watch some of the videos above. Even Carl Sagan, a mainstream scientists that skeptics love, said that the evidence for our reptilian ancestry is overwhelming. See his book "Dragons of Eden".

Scepcop,
Please check out this website showing pictures of icke at his home. You're able to see only very little, but pay particular attention to the size of the house through the window in image 5/10. I'm not sure I will agree with your "one bedroom flat with one bed" comment.
http://jackcutting.photoshelter.com/gal ... JwbGe18.4w


Wow. His home looks quite nice in those pictures. It's hard to tell how big it is, but based on the view outside, it looks like it's either a mansion or a nice apartment on the 2nd floor?

But why would Icke say that he lives in a simple one bedroom apartment in this interview then?



I mean why would he lie? Wouldn't he worry about being caught and losing his credibility?

I'll bring this up on David Icke's forum and see what they say.
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Re: The Case for Reptilians in Human History

Postby Scepcop » Fri May 06, 2011 3:00 pm

Here is a thread I started in the David Icke forum about his living conditions. I wonder what the replies will be.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=168387
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